handshape/arpeggio for multiple notes at a time?

[raynebc]

Latest hotfix adds what I believe were the remaining requested changes.

[Chlipouni]

Hi,

 

  In an official DLC I found this specific way to manage handshape phrase with partial chords inside :

  <chordTemplates count="4">
    <chordTemplate chordName="D" displayName="D" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="3" finger5="2" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="2" fret4="3" fret5="2" />
    <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="-nop" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="3" finger5="2" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="2" fret4="3" fret5="2" />
    <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="-nop" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="2" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="2" fret4="3" fret5="-1" />
    <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="-nop" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="3" finger5="2" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="-1" fret4="3" fret5="2" />
  </chordTemplates>
  ...
        <chords count="3">
        <chord time="4.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" chordId="1" fretHandMute="0" highDensity="0" ignore="0" palmMute="0" hopo="0" strum="down">
          <chordNote time="4.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="2" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="1" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="3" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0" />
          <chordNote time="4.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="3" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="3" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="4" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0" />
          <chordNote time="4.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="2" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="2" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="5" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0" />
        </chord>
        <chord time="6.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" chordId="2" fretHandMute="0" highDensity="0" ignore="0" palmMute="0" hopo="0" strum="down">
          <chordNote time="6.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="2" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="1" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="3" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0" />
          <chordNote time="6.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="3" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="2" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="4" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0" />
        </chord>
        <chord time="8.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" chordId="3" fretHandMute="0" highDensity="0" ignore="0" palmMute="0" hopo="0" strum="down">
          <chordNote time="8.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="3" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="3" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="4" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0" />
          <chordNote time="8.295" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="2" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="2" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="5" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0" />
        </chord>
      </chords>
   ...
      <handShapes count="4">
        <handShape chordId="0" endTime="9.326" startTime="4.027" />
        <handShape chordId="1" endTime="6.280" startTime="4.295" />
        <handShape chordId="2" endTime="8.280" startTime="6.295" />
        <handShape chordId="3" endTime="8.326" startTime="8.295" />
      </handShapes>

The first chordTemplate "D" define the main chord and its finger positions.

 

The first handShape references this chordTemplate and is not associated to a specific chord. It encapsulates the three following handshapes by its duration (startTime = "4.027" to endTime = "9.326")

 

The three other handShapes :

- are included inside the global handShape (startTime and endTime are embedded inside the time positions of the first handShape)

- are linked to a specific chordTemplate with no name but a specific tag "-nop" inside the displayName

- are associated with their chords (same time position and same chordId)

 

I tried to reproduce this specific case in RS2014 :

- The global handShape works fine as an handShape phrase (continuous lines + finger positions)

- The three embedded handShapes are displayed with their handShape box without a name and inherits the finger positions of the global handShape

 

The only thing that doesn't work is the chordNotes which are not displayed inside their handShape boxes (for all chords) !

 

Maybe someone has an idea why the chordNotes are not displayed ?

Is it a limitation of the RSToolkit about the "-nop" flag (I don't use DD for this test case) ?

 

Thank you

[raynebc]

Overlapping handshape tags? If the game supports that I guess that could formally cause chord boxes to be drawn inside the scope of a handshape, but I wonder if it would just be simpler for EOF to do handshape-contained chords as repeat lines with the single notes that make up each chord?

[Xaphist]

So did we ever get a way to do this?

 

Bump

[raynebc]

Yes, a long time ago. You should be able to just place a handshape phrase over several consecutive chords.