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I thought it did to, but they must have changed it. Mine has three options only. 1. Always keep this game up to date. 2. Only update this game when I launch it 3. High Priority - Always auto-update this game before others. And that's it.

There is no Off... Just three types of On. :(

I've used Fraps and Shadowplay, both of which require "Audio Exclusivity" to be turned off in RS before they will capture sound. You can turn it off via tools/options ingame, or modify your Rocksmith.ini (in your Rocksmith2014 folder). By default, the second line down under the [Audio] heading reads: ExclusiveMode=1 You can change this to; ExclusiveMode=0 to turn it off.

RR pic looks like there are no phrases, is that what you'd expect 2 see if sections were marked in EoF and not put through DDC?

Hey Cat, have you got a pic of what you're seeing?? Currently (in my experience), only a marked section is individually selectable/manageable in RR. Is this the Section's primary/only function? This is confusing for me because I keep reading that the Section is like a marker for parts of the song, like a label and nothing more. But it's actually tied to RR usage and function yet that part is'nt spoken about. There's no point marking a 24 bar solo as a single "Solo" section because 24 bars is just too long to practically use in RR... So the alternative is to mark several 'solo' sections so they all appear independently in RR. Is this the right way to do it? Just keep using the same section name for as many manageable RR pieces you need to make it practical to learn? But then there's the phrase issue - Are you meant to just mark a phrase because you have a section the same size? Or can phrases be much longer than sections - given they are supposed to identify similar groups of notes? What if none of the notes are similar (like a solo), do you make one phrase for the entire solo because nothing is similar? Or do you mark phrases to match your sections?

For me personally, I think RS has limited learning appeal to the higher grade player. For beginners, it's awesome, because there is probably 1-2 years worth of study/content that helps build technique and knowledge. For Intermediate players (myself), it still offers a lot, but not in all areas - like Session mode, I would love to see more visual guidance, like chord shapes displayed with fingering and a Name of the chord to help with recognition. For me, the biggest impact RS has had is actually getting me engaged in playing. When you've played for years (not professionally) and have been complacent in what you know, you find yourself in a rut... RS has been a great tool for getting me engaged with guitar again, and that's a good thing :smile: For advanced players, I can only assume it's just a bit of fun, something that's engaging and can fast-track learning songs for extra chops. I, like you, have seen a lot of videos (Lick Library etc) with fantastic info like 'C-A-G-E-D' systems (seen in session mode scales), fretborad mastery classes filled with drills of chords/Arpeggios/scales etc... But in the end, it comes down to this: "Knowledge is not enough, we must apply" - (I was told that was a Bruce Lee quote, unverified) I came across this YouTube video recently and I liked what the instructor had to say, although a little monotone, the examples and theory is well explained and he seems to have a fair few videos on different soloing methods. I think this is the kind of stuff you need to do to get where you want to go. Hope it helps. :smile:

I'm still working on it, but as we've discussed, I'm inserting sections as a means to break up the song in RR so it can be learnt in smaller pieces (mostly 2-bar sections). The camera works a little better, but still not as focused as I would like it to. It may just be the nature of the piece with the majority of it jumping between the 5th & 12th fret, there may not be enough time concentrated in one area for the camera to zoom in and stabilize. I've opted for inserting phrases for the track at the same time as I insert sections, none of my sections are more than 2-bars long and with DDC left at the 2-bar phrase default, it hasn't tried to break them up any more. What's your issue(s)? ;)

Congrats on the "real guitarist" goal!! It may be worth sourcing a good instructor.. i.e. someone who can do all the things you aspire to do - They may be able to help carve out the path for you.... Other than that, you sound like you've done enough research to know what you need to learn, you could probably make up your own practice routine which includes it all; Fretboard knowledge - know every fret on every string by name, Chord shape drills - go through scale tone chords in every key, or play the same chord in every position up the neck Scale drills - pick a scale and a string at random, then start from there - Once you have mastered the vertical six string shape of all positions, start with one or two strings and play the scales horizontally - create melody lines - build muscle memory of how the shapes connect to one another.. Keys - find some common chord progressions, I-IV-V, III-Vi-II-V-I, II-V, etc.. and play them in a variety of keys and shapes Improv. - record the above progression practice and play different scales over them, try a scale of the key, a scale of the chord you're playing over, develop your ear to what you like the sound of... For me, playing guitar is part science and part art, it's up to you to define how much of each part signifies your playing (style). You've probably seen or heard of everything I've mentioned above, it just sounds like you're looking for more structure behind your learning. My 2c - write everything you want to learn down on paper, then draw up your own schedule dividing your time between them. Test that for a month then re-access and modify as required. Best wishes :smile:

Wow, thanks.... That will certainly help.... From the EoF Help file: "Hold S when pressing Space to play only the currently selected notes. Keep S held down to cause the selected notes to replay on a loop once the last selected note is reached." Thanks Marty, I'll have to go read that Keys file now, for the first time :oops:

Would it be possible to create a looping mechanism within EoF? It may just be me who watches the notes on the wave form over and over again to confirm alignment by thrashing the arrow and space bar keys... In audio editing programs it's easy to define a section to repeat/loop by selecting it with a left click & drag method etc... But I don't know if that kind of functionality could be used in EoF... Maybe a couple of shortcuts -available keys permitting- with [loop start] and [loop end] status, And a [Clear loop markers] for when you've finished that section or made a mistake.. Then, like audio editors, when the play marker travels through the assigned loop region it will activate the looping function. Just a thought - Don't know if others would find it as useful as I would right now :smile:

I'm no expert, and I'm sure that opinions will vary, however I think you'll get more 'musical' benefit from learning songs.. The more you're exposed to riffs/rhythms will just build your guitar vocabulary. And if you think of guitar playing like a language, the better your vocabulary, the better you'll be able to express yourself. I don't know where I heard it, but I remember one thing mentioned by an instructor once; He said, never practice scales/techniques outside of a musical context. His argument was, scales aren't MUSIC - No one is going to pay $50 to come and watch you play scales, let alone enjoy it! So practice them within some form of musical context; backing track, Session mode etc... Give them musical meaning. Apply the scale with musicality, as opposed to playing a scale with a metronome. My recent personal experience - I've had RS2014 for 4 weeks, and in that time I haven't touched my amp/effects :sad: Last night I had a jam with friends and quickly had to adjust to play with a much lighter touch than I was used to in RS... I think the big produced sound of RS (although cool) can hide some articulation flaws in technique that you aren't going to hear till you get back on your amp. There are some guides around of how to run a split set up (RS & Amp at the same time) if that idea appeals to you. Good luck!!

This is my preferred method too.. And from back in the day.... This, taken from a 1991 edition of "Guitar Player" magazine talking about an Eb transcription written in E. "Tuning: Though the tune was recorded in concert Eb, we notated the music in the key of E, which is how it looks on the fretboard." Yes, I'm old school - my Eb chart has E standard chord names. :smile:

Very cool! Thanks :smile:

I probably should have deleted/regenerated the hand positions after the resnap.... Just looking at it now, 40+ of them are mere milliseconds out which raises EoF's warning on save message(s).... The phrase thing is something I'm unfamiliar with - i.e. how to do manually... I actually loved the fact DDC made so many evenly spaced phrases on its own and all I had to do was provide the sections... Which brings me to my song choice, it's not really a song, it's an instrumental. So other than a couple of chords and riffs that repeat a few times, the majority of it is all Solo. I struggled trying to figure out what to call the sections given EoF's "Many" choices, simply because the Tab just uses Letter Names to define sections. So it's a bit more abstract than a standard song format with verse/chorus sections that are identical each time. Anyways, I'm happy to let you have the project... do you mean the project folder (with everything in it), or just the .eof file???

OK, thanks for all that.I'll test it out... What's the worst that can happen :shock: Off topic once again, I'm collecting a large number of .undo / .redo files in my EoF main folder (505 currently), I don't really need these once I end the EoF program do I? I mean, I can't open a project and start doing "undo's" from the last time I was in EoF, can I??

OK, wow... what a difference - and unfortunately, not in a good way :( First, I don't know what's different about the toolkit/DDC in the latest release, but this time it only gave me 23 phrases compared to last times 37 (roughly every 2 bars) - This new one has almost no consistency with some really long phrases and some really short ones - don't know if my naming of the sections is to blame but this is completely different... Re: the camera - last time the camera man was having issues focusing, this time the camera man had left the building!! Very little camera movement compared to last version and a lot of time spent zoomed all the way out - possibly larger phrases to blame? Also chord box display problems were introduced with the new version - say a section was highlighting frets 12-15 and the next section went down to frets 5-8, the notes appeared at the 5-8 position but the highlighted lanes stayed up at the 12-15th frets and the chord box was also named and placed at the 12th fret as well... This happens quite a few times.... Bandwidth permitting, I can put video runs of both versions up if you'd like, or give you both .psarc files (pre & post Toolkit update)... Also, there were still some timing issues with the DD log after the EoF resnap: - Notes ==> WARNING : Note Time Correction : 48.958 -> 48.973 ==> WARNING : Note Time Correction : 80.415 -> 80.430 ==> WARNING : Note Time Correction : 145.658 -> 145.673 ==> WARNING : Note Time Correction : 202.869 -> 202.885 ==> WARNING : Note Time Correction : 243.457 -> 243.473 => 65 ms - Chords ==> WARNING : Chord Time Correction : 178.308 -> 178.324 => 25 msSo, all in all, it looked much better with smaller/more phrases... But there seems to be some other introduced issues as well with the latest toolkit version :wacko:

Ahh, thanks.

Thanks for that - I will do this as soon as I get home from work and post back.... Thanks again. Btw, my last Toolkit download was master-2.5.0.0-25199c635079.zip, is that not the latest?

I used DDC within the toolkit to create phrases, so without DD I just get the fully zoomed out view - No movement whatsoever with the camera. No, the only thing I did was change their name once or twice... Latest (un-DDC'd) .XML here.

ok, thanks for the information....Trying to wrap my head around the format of the XML so I'm gonna look at the pre-DDC version to keep things as simple as possible. 1st Question: Is there a better viewer/editor to use than Notepad for XML's? My Chord Template looks like this: <chordTemplates count="34"> <chordTemplate chordName="E6" displayName="E6" finger0="2" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="4" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="12" fret1="11" fret2="11" fret3="13" fret4="12" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="2" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="4" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="5" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="6" fret4="-1" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="2" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="4" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="6" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="7" fret4="-1" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="A6" displayName="A6" finger0="2" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="4" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="5" fret1="4" fret2="4" fret3="6" fret4="5" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="-1" finger5="1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="12" fret4="-1" fret5="12"/> <chordTemplate chordName="E" displayName="E" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="3" finger4="-1" finger5="1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="14" fret4="-1" fret5="12"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="3" finger4="3" finger5="3" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="12" fret4="12" fret5="12"/> <chordTemplate chordName="A" displayName="A" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="1" finger5="1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="-1" fret4="10" fret5="10"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="2" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="11" fret3="12" fret4="-1" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="4" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="8" fret4="7" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="2" finger3="4" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="2" fret3="4" fret4="3" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="0" fret3="0" fret4="0" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="3" finger5="1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="-1" fret4="9" fret5="7"/> <chordTemplate chordName="A" displayName="A" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="1" finger5="1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="-1" fret4="7" fret5="7"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="2" finger4="2" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="2" fret4="2" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="0" fret3="0" fret4="-1" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="3" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="14" fret4="14" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="12" fret4="12" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="A" displayName="A" finger0="2" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="-1" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="5" fret1="0" fret2="4" fret3="-1" fret4="-1" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="4" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="4" fret3="6" fret4="5" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="0" fret4="0" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="A6" displayName="A6" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="4" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="0" fret2="4" fret3="6" fret4="5" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="EMaj13" displayName="EMaj13" finger0="-1" finger1="1" finger2="3" finger3="2" finger4="4" finger5="4" fret0="-1" fret1="7" fret2="9" fret3="8" fret4="9" fret5="9"/> <chordTemplate chordName="A6" displayName="A6" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="4" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="4" fret2="4" fret3="6" fret4="5" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="9" fret4="9" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="1" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="9" fret3="9" fret4="-1" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="1" finger2="1" finger3="-1" finger4="-1" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="9" fret2="9" fret3="-1" fret4="-1" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="1" finger5="1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="-1" fret4="17" fret5="17"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="2" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="11" fret4="12" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="1" finger4="2" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="9" fret4="10" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName="" displayName="" finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="3" finger4="2" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="11" fret4="10" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="1" finger3="1" finger4="2" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="9" fret3="9" fret4="10" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="3" finger3="3" finger4="3" finger5="-1" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="12" fret3="12" fret4="12" fret5="-1"/> <chordTemplate chordName=" " displayName=" " finger0="-1" finger1="-1" finger2="-1" finger3="-1" finger4="2" finger5="2" fret0="-1" fret1="-1" fret2="-1" fret3="-1" fret4="12" fret5="12"/> </chordTemplates>And, the double stop I referenced previously is this one in the <chords count="137"> Group: <chord time="37.727" linkNext="0" accent="0" chordId="33" fretHandMute="0" highDensity="0" ignore="0" palmMute="0" hopo="0" strum="down"> <chordNote time="37.727" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="12" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="2" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="4" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0"/> <chordNote time="37.727" linkNext="0" accent="0" bend="0" fret="12" hammerOn="0" harmonic="0" hopo="0" ignore="0" leftHand="2" mute="0" palmMute="0" pluck="-1" pullOff="0" slap="-1" slideTo="-1" string="5" sustain="0.000" tremolo="0" harmonicPinch="0" pickDirection="0" rightHand="-1" slideUnpitchTo="-1" tap="0" vibrato="0"/> </chord>So, the 'chord time' line makes reference to chordId=33 (which is the 34th of 34 lines) in the template group. Is that right? And the sub-'chordNote time' lines have tags of interest 'fret=12", lefthand="2"... Now, I assume the XML is exported by EoF on every save and it would be pointless to modify a current XML with my changes if I'm going to keep working on it in EOF because it'll just overwrite my alterations to the chordtemplates & chordTime groups. Is that correct? Also, is the 'lefthand=#' tag on the chordNote line defined by the chordtemplate?? I'm wondering if I could just change the '#' to the finger # I want to use without causing a logic-fart to RS. But if not, then I'd also have to come down to the individual chordtime/chordNote lines and modify not only the ChordId but the lefthand# as well, relative to the new chordId I create at the end of the list. - Is that correct? Oh, and just scrolling down to the bottom of the XML I see a group called "handShapes" listing the chordId, & start and end times. Will I also have to modify these entries to reflect my new template chordId's? Thanks again for your help and advise. :smile:

My chart has 6 sections, DDC puts in 2-bar phrases, yet I'm seeing some really weird camera zooming almost half way through the largest section. All Fret Hand Positions for these phrases are set at the 1st & 2nd fret, yet in the video you see the camera jump out of position at about the 15 second mark. It drifts from 1st/2nd fret anchor and zooms back to view 24+ frets while all the action is going on down near the nut. The puzzling thing is, there are highlighted lanes from 27s-34s expecting something to happen on frets 15-18, but there is nothing on them, never has been. Why does it think there is something going on up there??? Any ideas? Seen this behavior before? Thanks for any advise.

I like Session Mode! :wacko:

wow, ok, so could you tell me where I need to look in the XML to find the fingering at that time? Is there a way to force the issue within the XML?? i.e. not use the template...

Hi raynebc, I have an update on my Fingering mismatch issue between EoF and RS, but don't know if it should be posted in it's own thread since it's not what this thread is primarily about.... (your call if you want to move it) My chart has multiple instances of an E & B string double stop at the 12th fret, some are within riffs, some are slides into and out of the 12th fret and some are harmonics, so over the course of the song I've used every finger of the fretting hand (1,2,3,4) to accommodate these and entered them manually in EoF. However, RS still displays finger numbers contrary to what I've assigned in EoF, and it's not consistant, some show my assignments and others ignore my assignments, it seems random... Other double stops on other strings don't appear to be effected, it's just the E&B strings that are standing out to me, and it's not just the 12th fret, also happens on the 17th at one point. Are these manual assignments marked as 'overrides' in the xml? Any ideas as to why this is happening? Do my manual assignments get less priority if I re-generate fret hand positions on the chart??? I'm just stabbing in the dark because it doesn't make sense to me... I expect the manual assignments to override what RS suggests. Here is one example: 4th finger assigned in EoF, displays as 2nd finger in RS. Current hand position at this point in the chart is 9th fret - 4th finger should be ideal, shouldn't it??

Haven't even finished a custom yet and need to thank raynebc for his ever present teaching demeanor. Berneer as well for his interest and investment in helping Everybody make better customs. There is probably still stuff I haven't found on this site yet, but I just found the Request/WIP page last night - That is a fine piece of Awesomeness right there, thanks to all involved.