Hey thanks for helping. Gee I've confused the crap out of myself. I don't churn out the CDLC too often so every time I create it's like I have to refresh my memory on how to do it. Anyway, I got myself into trouble this time around using Ultrastar Creator to create lyrics. Usually I start that program and it asks to import the .mp3 from the EoF folder. In the past whatever audio I had imported had the leading silence. I THINK I've just figured out that I have to import the .ogg file, not the .mp3 file ...... This time around I imported the .mp3 (original) by mistake, the vocals were out of sync and it spiralled out of control from there. :) It still doesn't explain why the counter starts at 3 seconds instead of right at the very beginning of the track as it used to though. It never did this in the past. Thanks for your help guys.