ShrillBear52

When you put the crazy status on a chord, it will be forced to appear as a full chord therefore making RS show again the handshape corresponding. In your situation you would put the crazy status on the chord right after the section start (likely on the same beat) to avoid your issue but this means you will see again the full chord box which might not be wanted in all situation.

Wow,so far it's good as I tested,the only (NEW)  2 weird things what I saw is in some cases the C5 open chords are not apper normaly in RR,I don't know if it's a normal behaviour or not.The second one is when the open C5 chord is apper at the 19-20th frets and not as the others does(I think that is what you mentioned earlier,as " you will se again the full chord box",right?)

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160609/20160609155507_1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160609/20160609155713_1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

When a hanshape cross over two different section, RS ends the handshape at the end of the first section. You can avoid that by forcing the recreation of the handshape via the crazy status or by changing the section placement depending on the situation.

(god,recently I got so many things to taking care of,and I only returned now back to rocksmith) so I guess by "changing the section part placement" you meant to put that section (where RS ends the handsape) to a different place in EOF.But,I don't know what did you meant with the "forcing recreation of the handsahpe via crazy status".Put a crazy stat to a chord where RS ends the handshape or what? I'm counfused in this.

The grid allow you to make sure that you keep the same pacing all around by dividing the space in regular interval between each beat. Without, you might not always be where you want but slightly off which can easily have some weird side effect.

 

The grid value is just the number of division between each beat which is how precise it will be in how you move the note. With a lower amount of division, while resnapping you might have two note that will have a conflict because they should go on the same position, the higher number on the grid value the lower this issue can appear (EOF will always warn you if a conflict like this happen though).

Oh my! I just check the RR part in the song and far as I see there is no problem with the notes so far,thanks! If I right,then the only remaning issue is the handshapes.What did you meant with " the handshape cross a section making the handshape dissapear"?

Well that confirm what i thought in the first place.

 

go into Song and then click on Highlight non grid snapped notes and you'll see that ALL of the note are highlighted (and they are all like 1 or 2 ms before. So the note that are supposed to be ON the beat are just a bit before making them appear in the section before because they are in fact before the section you want them in.

 

The easy way to fix this is to activate the grid to a small value (i like the custom value of 1/64 so that even the fastest part will benefit from it) via the song => grid snap menu, then select every thing (CTRL+A) and then Resnap (in the note drop down or simply with CTRL+SHIFT+R) and you should be good to go.

I see, sry to ask,but what is gride note do/mean?  And what will be the difference if I set the grid value to 1/64?? Other than that,I did this changes ,and  I'll test it  now.

At first glance with the video i think the problem is about off grid note but without the actual file you used for this specific case it's impossible to really say if it's the issue or not...

Here is the updated project file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2u093ipty7w1xz/more%20mark%20changes.eof?dl=0  

 

 

You may not be aware, but it takes about 15-20 minutes to download a video like this from filedropper.

 

Sending a link to your most up to date project file and telling us that the "problem" occurs at "x minutes and x seconds" into the EoF project will always be far more helpful than posting a video on filedropper.

 

If you absolutely have to send a video, it would be best if you used something like Google Drive, which allows us to stream the video rather than having to download it in full from a slow file host.

Thank you for your advice, and I tried to explain it with words but it seems people don't understand it,so it's a bit easier to explain with a video.

 

We can understand you fairly well. You're just not giving us the necessary information in order for us to help you. What I meant is that a video isn't the most efficient and effective way for us to help.

 

Filedropper was actually much faster this time, but the video alone didn't help me understand what the problem was. Was your problem regarding handshapes, or note sustains? And at specifically what time in your project? If you've made changes to your project file recently, then please upload your .eof file so that we can look at things more closely.

 

With the video I didn't meant for the wrong handshapes,I meant for "some notes appers in not that section where there should be(and you can see it in the video that it also changes)Also,I will post a new project file as soon as I'll get my self okay.

You may not be aware, but it takes about 15-20 minutes to download a video like this from filedropper.

 

Sending a link to your most up to date project file and telling us that the "problem" occurs at "x minutes and x seconds" into the EoF project will always be far more helpful than posting a video on filedropper.

 

If you absolutely have to send a video, it would be best if you used something like Google Drive, which allows us to stream the video rather than having to download it in full from a slow file host.

Thank you for your advice, and I tried to explain it with words but it seems people don't understand it,so it's a bit easier to explain with a video.

Your last issue with handshape is because the handshape cross a section making the handshape dissapear. It's the way Rocksmith work, if you can't even manage that we can't do anything for you...

Oh I see,but how can make it to not cross(if there's any way)?

EOF will also warn about that problem if it is present, make sure to pay attention when EOF complains about something when you perform a normal save of the project.  Having dynamic difficulty makes debugging the other problems much more complicated.

It warns me about one or two handshape marks,but without those (where the program signs me the warning)EOF export the notes with too long or too short handshape.Besides,I'm still don't using DD to see if theres any incorrect export things.I'm also always forget to post a video or pic.where I can explain the problems with more details so here you can watch this,I'm not sure if it's natural to apper this notes in RR.

The first verse phrase is halfway into measure 16, it does not start at the beginning.  There may be other placement errors of your phrases that you need to correct.

I changed verse starting, but the issue is still reamins,not only this,but when I open the RR and seek for the (eg.Pre Chorus) it sometimes shows the  first notes/chords before the section is would,what I mean is that the first chord from the pre chorus appers in the verse section (only the first) or the first 2 notes apper in the pre chorus part from the chorus.It also anoys me,that there are always sections (In RR) what can not be loaded,(what I mean is eg,If I skip from the chorus section to the riff section it miss out that part and goes to the verse part)

And it that whouldn't be enough,I still have problems with the handshapes(what I mean problem is I mark them and they look great in the game (most of the time) but this issue appears again for a part that has not even touched in EOF :

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160413/20160413214034_1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

If you can post your current EOF project file we can take a look at it.  It's possible that the project file is correct, but old XML files are being used with the toolkit or something.

here you go:   https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2u093ipty7w1xz/more%20mark%20changes.eof?dl=0

I can only assume that it has to do with what @@firekorn previously mentioned:

 

the section not being on the first beat of the measure, DDC will move it to fit the first beat of the measure before happening on the chord slide. It's normal DDC behavior. Without adding DD, the CDLC should be fine there.

If you define a section on a beat that isn't the first beat of a measure, DDC will alter the placement of the section. If you create your chart files without DDC and the problem goes away, that probably confirms this was the cause. You could then change some of the time signatures to resolve the issue. For example: If a section starts two beats into a measure with 4/4 timing:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/raynebc/Ts%20fix%20before_zpsgq8l6t4x.jpg

 

You can change the time signature on that measure to 2/4 to indicate that measure is only two beats long and then change the time signature back to 4/4 on the beat that has the section. Now the section is placed at the start of a measure:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/raynebc/TS%20fix%20after_zpsg2u3veod.jpg

 

The problem is that I place the setions(4/4 time signature) on the first beat of a measure(wich are just the start of a new setion),but the problem is still apper,even without DD.

You can force it to appear as a repeat line by selecting it, pressing N (or accessing "Note>Pro guitar>Edit pro guitar note" from the menu) and checking the "Hi Dens" option.

Got it that too thanks! If my thoghts are right,then the only remaning issue is the section part where the note(s) aren't in there right section.

You can force a chord to appear as a chord box instead of a repeat by applying "crazy" status to it (ie. select that chord by clicking on it and press T).  The fret number box coloring will invert to reflect when it has this status.  The 3D preview can be set to predict (not in every circumstance, but many of them) when a chord will be displayed as a repeat line by opening File>Preferences and enabling the "3D render RS style chords" option.

I understand it thanks,and how can I mark a chord to apper as a repeeated insted of a normal chord box?

Well, nevermind that error message,I managed to creat the song,and I tested the marks and they're great so far.The problems those are still exsit(so far that are have In my mind)  are the bad notes in the bad sections and this one was probably not discuised before,but how can I set the chords to apper not just like this way that they are in? (see more on the pic.)

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160516/chord_questions_again_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

Guys,I own you an apologize.I was a retarded(still)and didn't understnad it how to normaly do the beat sync.After I saw GetTheLedOut's video,I understood everything and realized,that when I "just" started to make customs I used this method for all of my songs,I just don't know when did I forget this and went to my own head.I even recreated the whole project again,and everything went fine,exepct one thing.I reachd the toolkit part to put the files into a song,but when I want to generate or just save the package,I get this message here:

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160515/Screenshot_2016-05-15_21.05.32_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

I even want to test the song how it looks without handshapes and without DD.

Will you forgive me pls???

ALL difficulty level should be adjusted whenever you want to change a thing in the chart which is the reason why Raynebc say it's the very last thing you should ever do.

 

Level are NOT linked together in any way, each level are they own independent chart, making a modification to a level will never change anything in any other level.

 

In the last screen, you can see that the FHP is fixed to 10 while you have chord on the 7 and 5 position so EOF will alert you cause that's not a normal behavior. I strongly suggest you delete all FHP and let EOF automatically generate them as long as you aren't able to manage to create the most basic element of the chart.

I have a feeling that you fucking misunderstood me,first,let's just put the DD making talk away for some other times,second,I know that I have to make the difficulty and the frethand positions for the end,(I always did in this way)the problems what I have is still the same,not sure about it how it will look like the verse part without the marks and I also deleted the FHPs but I still got a message that tells me they are problems with them.ALSO,if the levels are not linked togother then why whould the marks in a different level cause issue with one other wich don't have those marks on them?Also I mention the reason why I need this marks:the length of the chords are not always defined perfectly,sometimes too short or too long.I know that's what the sustains are for,but you can clearly make difference about the this and the handshape(I mean,you know where should you use wich one) As raynebc  said:"there is a difference betwen this 2".Not sure if I mentioned before,but I have memoy issues and I red all the texts you wrote,I just don't remember to them.

@@ShrillBear52 As i said, you didn't removed the crazy status for the given level on your screen...

 

As long as you keep not doing what we suggest you to do, we'll never get anywhere and you clearly seems to not listen to anything we say...

 

You don't know how to use the tool and that's fine but persisting in blaming the tool will get you nowhere.

I removed them but I didn't know that in difficulty 4 they are still markd and I don't even know how are those 2 connect eachother.I just noticed that eof always warns me about the wrong frethand positions but in the all difficulty levels,wtf do i suppose to do with all this?

 

I'm not talking about the DD right now,I'm talking about the chords where I removed the handshapes and the "crazy" statues and still behavi like this what you can see in the picture.

You didn't follow my recommended steps on ALL difficulty levels of the chart. In your project file, difficulty 3 does not have the chords marked as crazy, but difficulty 4 does and that's causing the problem. You're going to have lots of complications if you continue trying to fix problems after having added difficulty levels (which should be one of the absolute final steps in authoring a chart) because you're going to have to apply the fix to each and every difficulty level as appropriate. Before one can run one must learn to walk, and manually authoring dynamic difficulty is an advanced topic.

 

Ah I see,and you're right,but why is difficulty 3 connects with difficulty 4? Also most of the notes/chords are not showing in difficulty 4,is that normal?

Are you sure you removed it cause it certainly doesn't look like it. What you show us is the exact behavior when crazy status is applied to all chord so let me doubt you actually got rid of the status.

Yes,otherwise there whouldn't be any DD sign on the song inside Rocksmith, and you can see for yourself here in the project file,and if you don't have the other files here is the folder.

that's expected behaviour if you still have the crazy status active on the chord.

Problem is,they don't have the mark on them.

As has been said before, you would be much better off doing a single difficulty chart, getting it to look the way you want in-game, and then worry about adding dynamic difficulty.

I'm not talking about the DD right now,I'm talking about the chords where I removed the handshapes and the "crazy" statues and still behavi like this what you can see in the picture.

Remove all the handshape phrases and remove the crazy status from the chords (ie. for each difficulty, select all notes with CTRL+A, use "Note>Rocksmith>Handshape>Remove" and "Note>Crazy>Remove"). Then identify what about the default behavior (which is "good enough" for most purposes) it is that you want to change.

Without the marks the chords looks like this:

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160508/20160508224238_1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

By the way,I don't know wich frethand positions cause troubles,if you have time you chould look at this project file,I don't know what did I don't noticed

Well with all the crazy status and the unneeded handshape mark, you are going to have a lot of trouble to make that look good...

Then how else can I make all those chords to have good handshape look without the handshape mark?

Selecting the chords and pressing T (to apply "crazy" status to them) has the opposite effect: Each of the chords is put into a separate handshape in Rocksmith, even if they are repeated chords. It is not clear exactly what you want to author. If you want the chords to display with sustain tails in-game, you should instead select each of the desired chords one at a time, use "Note>Pro guitar>Edit pro guitar note" and apply the "Sustain" status.

 

To begin with, it's best to focus on creating a single difficulty chart before going to the added complexity of manually authoring dynamic difficulty.

I mean,I try to make this part to look good with no success:

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160506/Screenshot_2016-05-06_22.53.25_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160506/20160506213220_1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg