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I definitely wish for an option where the charts would be transposed for the tuning you are in. Also, would be cool if there was a feature which allowed you to transpose notes between strings on the fly in riff repeater maybe. For example, if you don't like playing open strings you could make that a fretted note in the chart, or you could make a note played on a higher string instead of moving on the neck, or vice versa.

Also, if you had a snapped string you could move the notes from that string to the others and keep on playing :P

I know the rocksmith team tries to chart the songs as closely as possible to how they are originally played by the artist, but the game isn't made for those artists right? Couldn't hurt to add in a little flexibility for the user.

Yeah, liking the songs you do as customs is important. That's why just throwing out random bands for requests is always a bit, well, random. I'm glad that you apparently did a little research on Sex Machineguns, maybe you like them or maybe not. Taste in music is the ultimate subjective thing after all :)

Keep them awesome customs coming out!

Hello, thanks for your great work on the Gazette customs. I have found them fun to play.

Now I usually don't want to request customs, but I would love to see some Sex Machineguns customs done, they have been one of my favorite bands for a long time. I could do bass customs from them myself but I love their guitar solos and it would be a shame for the customs not to include them, better leave them for someone who knows their business :)

A quick search in songsterr looks like there are some tabs available for them, don't know how good they are though

http://www.songsterr.com/a/wa/search?pattern=sex+machineguns

I guess some of my favorite songs would be Hanabi-la Daikaten, Fire or Illusion City.

They are a great live band (or at least were in their prime) :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLXc6_CRGcI

I had this problem too when I started playing, I'm picking with a closed hand too. In my case though the problems went away with my skin around the knuckles hardening from playing, much like the skin on the tips of the fretting fingers at start. I guess it took about 4 months for it to feel completely ok playing.

The "ok" shape always felt too loose for me, so I stuck with the closed hand and got used to it.

But of course, if you feel like you're not getting used to it at all and it feels really bad you might want to look at your technique.

 

 

... And it was for quite a while, until somebody (whoever it was deserves a BIG pat on the back!) figured out that you can work around that hard cap by (ab)using the setting that allows for songs in a tuning off of standard A440.

 

*ahem* :P

 

 

Good to know -- any chance you are a programmer or computer science type?  The elegance and simplicity yet "outside the box" thinking of that workaround strikes me as something that would most likely come from a programmer or symbolic logic type of thinker.   :)

 

Meant as a complement, I just find that solution very inventive and interesting.

 

I'm not that good with computers but I study physics. I don't know that much of music theory either, I got my first bass just 6 months ago.

It all started when I saw a graph of notes and frequencies. I kinda visualized the note C1 as this "wall of death" behind which Rocksmith doesn't register notes anymore. Then I realized that the pitch is essentially a variable to change the shape of that graph and remembered that there's an option to change the pitch in the toolkit, so I thought it was worth a try.

I made a graph visualizing the workaround:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8gl3l5r01hf0w3/rsf.tif

Also, Dave came up with the initial idea of using guitar parts for 5 string bass.

... And it was for quite a while, until somebody (whoever it was deserves a BIG pat on the back!) figured out that you can work around that hard cap by (ab)using the setting that allows for songs in a tuning off of standard A440.

*ahem* :P

Yeah the Larc, X-Japan and Dir en Grey are mainly mine ^^ guess i should put them up the new system at some point^^.

Just curious because of your nick, have you been thinking of doing some sex machineguns stuff? :)

The cdlc I made was Curl of the burl by mastodon and for the bass the tuning is AGCF. I've found the article on low note recognition. My question is do I need to apply this rule to all four strings or just the lowest string? Also are there any recommendations as to what the pitch should be changed to for this as well? Will changing it to the 220 pitch work for this?

 Changing the pitch affects all of the strings so yes, you will have to take it into account on all strings.

Simply put the trick is to make the tuning an octave higher and then make the pitch an octave lower, 220 hz, so they cancel each other out.

In the case of AGCF the tuning would be 5,10,10,10 with the trick (normally it would be -7,-2,-2,-2 but we go an octave higher for the trick)

I had problems with the cable disconnecting at one point, then I noticed the cable is comprised of two parts and the connection between the parts was loose. The parts come apart shortly after the usb plug, make sure the connection is tight.

Might be a bit tricky, all the notes the regular frets produce on a guitar or bass are 100 cents away from each other. On a bagpipe it looks like all the notes aren't exactly separated by 100 cents, for example the difference between natural C and C is about 70 cents. I think you will have to experiment with bends to make some notes slightly sharper but not by 100 cents.

But to get started with the tuning, looks like the lowest note is (roughly) G4 at A466. Let's say you want to make that be displayed as the 1st fret on a bass part. So G is +3 from the E string, but if we wanna have it at the first fret we'll set the tuning to +2. Then we'll be at Gb1, so to get it to the correct octave we'll have to set the pitch 3 octaves higher. But we'll have to take the initial change in pitch to account also, so the pitch will be 466*2^3=3728.

I've found that I personally just look at the colors of the gems when determining which string it is, the vertical order doesn't matter for me in game. I only play the bass though, might be a different story if you had to get your hand in weird positions making chords and all that :)

I'll just throw this out there, when I was looking around for a used 5 string bass that particular model was the one popping out most frequently. I figured why'd I want it if everyone else wants to get rid of it :)

But you make your own conclusions of course.

I only have one bass and it's my first, (only been playing it for three months) so my views might be a little skewed. I picked up a used Squier VM Jaguar Special from Guitar Center and I love it. The combination of a P-bass split pickup in the neck and a Jazz pickup in the bridge position gives me a great range of different tones, as does the active boost circuit. Mine is a four string, but they do make a five string version.

 

 

sleepy

The Fender headstock looks pretty ugly with five strings in my opinion with the fifth tuning machine on the other side, it looks like a mutation just grew there :P

Interested in getting one too.. Will be keeping tabs on this thread (no pun intended)! ;)Coming from 6 string guitar, would a 4 string be too restrictive or should it suit most songs?

If you want to be completely technical you only get 5 notes of added range per extra string :)

The main reason I went with a 5 string over a 4 string was playing those really low notes without having to play with spaghetti strings. I personally have no need for the sixth high string.

It isn't just a question of note range though, if you wanna have more options for chords and scales more strings are helpful.

But I guess 4 string is the most popular choice and many songs are done with that.

If I won the lottery I would probably buy something like a Wal bass :)

But alas, I'm just a poor student, got myself a 5 string Warwick Rockbass Streamer for pretty cheap. Sounds better than my previous 4 string which was even cheaper :P. It's pretty top-heavy though with the sturdy neck, that took some time getting used to.

Still I kinda like the idea of a bass-only manufacturer like Warwick. Might be worth looking into, the Rockbasses are manufactured in Asia and are cheaper and the regular Warwicks are made in Germany with better quality.

I guess optimally you'd have a prompt in both EoF and the toolkit about the bass tuning.

Then again, optimally the tuning would just work in Rocksmith without any tricks with the tuning :)

 

 

 

If you have any kind of partition (even a scan) and information of the tuning or at least the notes that you can play so that you can pass the tuning part. I might be able to do something out of it.

When I get some time, I'll try and get this for ya. I've actually been messing around with doing the some of the lead riffs (or maybe its synth?) on Only for the Weak with my bagpipes. Always pictured them sorta fitting in... maybe this can be our first experiment?Hardest part will be figuring out how to map the possible nine notes in a highland bagpipe to the playing interface of rocksmith. 

 

Apparently bagpipes aren't tuned according to 440 but a slightly higher pitch?

 

Never though I'd be learning stuff about bagpipes and violins and whatnot through Rocksmith :P

 

|I'm not sure what 440 even means! Great Highland Bagpipe music is usually written in a key of D Major, i believe.From wiki : " Highland bagpipe music is written in the key of D major, where the C and F are sharp (despite the key-signature usually being omitted from scores). Due to the lack of chromatic notes, to change key is also to change modes; tunes are in A Mixolydian, D Major, B Minor, or occasionally E Mode."

 

Redpipe supports alot of sounds , though : http://redpipes.eu/Seiten_engl/technologie/tech2_0.html

 

 

What I meant is that from what I've read the frequencies of the notes you produce with a bagpipe do not directly correspond to any frets on a bass or guitar tuned according to A440.

 

If you have any kind of partition (even a scan) and information of the tuning or at least the notes that you can play so that you can pass the tuning part. I might be able to do something out of it.

When I get some time, I'll try and get this for ya. I've actually been messing around with doing the some of the lead riffs (or maybe its synth?) on Only for the Weak with my bagpipes. Always pictured them sorta fitting in... maybe this can be our first experiment?Hardest part will be figuring out how to map the possible nine notes in a highland bagpipe to the playing interface of rocksmith. 

 

Apparently bagpipes aren't tuned according to 440 but a slightly higher pitch?

Never though I'd be learning stuff about bagpipes and violins and whatnot through Rocksmith :P

I guess you can separate the notes more with a higher scrolling speed? I haven't tried messing around with it.

Maybe it could be possible to implement some notification in EoF when it detects you're setting the tuning to B or below for a bass part where it informs that it won't work in rocksmith, and would recommend setting the tuning an octave higher and the pitch to 220 Hz.

At this point propably a half of my messages on this forum have been about informing charters that the bass won't work with a low tuning without this trick :)

There's something funny about "TRUE TUNING: A1760" :P

Looks like violin tuning is G3 D4 A4 E5. So, for a bass part to get the right notes in the same relation to E1 A1 D2 G2 the tuning should be set to +3,+5,+7,+9. Now we'll be at G1 D2 A2 E3, or two octaves below, and we'll correct that by setting the pitch two octaves higher to 1760 Hz (don't know if it will accept numbers this high).

Tuning all but one string up a full octave sounds like an extremely rare practice to me. EOF doesn't really do much of anything regarding what octave a note is in, so you could probably just set the tuning to 7,0,0,0. Also, just because a tuning can be set in the toolkit doesn't mean Rocksmith will handle it will, we've seen it with really low tunings. I don't know if it will have the same problem with really high tunings as well. They probably optimized their pitch detection for the more standard ranges of guitar/bass frequencies.

That's the thing, Rocksmith will handle the really low tunings if you mess around in EoF and the toolkit. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the workaround we've found.

http://customsforge.com/topic/4750-going-low-a-workaround-to-get-bass-notes-below-c1-to-register-in-rocksmith/

http://customsforge.com/topic/5227-5-strings-bass-and-low-note-recognition/

Hello

Related to the bass low tuning workaround I was wondering if the limitation of the tuning range to -11...11 in EoF is really necessary. For some tunings you would have to set the tunings to 12, for example B-A-D-G would be 7,12,12,12 with the fix. The toolkit seems to accept values of 12 and above, but EoF doesn't.