BusterKnott

On 12/7/2022 at 11:01 AM, ScottWolfe said:

 

"I have had a lot of people tell me over the years that Rocksmith is just a game and you will not learn anything. I beg to differ! I look at  Rocksmith as a very good learning tool. The biggest thing that Rocksmith taught me was that there is a whole lot more to learn outside of Rocksmith. I also have a subscription to Guitar Tricks and frequent Justingutiar."

I agree...

Rocksmith is great for helping an aspiring musician to learn and master the mechanics of playing guitar and/or bass. Rocksmith is able to this by making practice fun something that books, videos, tapes or CD's generally fail to do for most students.

Where Rocksmith falls short is the fact that it does not teach music theory nor does it teach sight reading, tablature, or even how to play chord charts. 

I consider Rocksmith to be a VERY useful adjunct to becoming a proficient musician but all by itself its utility is limited...

On the other hand by playing Rocksmith daily for the last eight years I improved to the point I was able to get a regular gig with a local band so there is that to consider!

 

This may not be the answer you're looking for but I have one that works well for me.

 

I had nothing but trouble using a pick so I quit using one at all and simply play fingerstyle. I pluck all the single notes and strum chords using the topside of my fingernails using all downstrokes. This style of playing chords is very similar to the rasgueado technique used in playing flamenco.

 

On two string power chords I frequently play using pinch chords. My style of picking and strumming is very similar to the way Robby Krieger played guitar with the Doors. Interestingly enough Krieger played both classical & flamenco guitar before he joined The Doors and refused to use picks when he played with the band.

 

I found this little tidbit interesting because like him I also studied classical guitar for years before I ever picked up an electric and can't stand using picks either.

 

My fingerstyle plucking and pinch chord technique also work extremely well for playing bass; at least they do for me.

 

Hopefully this helps!

I will most definitely give this a try, I'm really fond of the pinch technique itself when it comes to power chords, now and again though since im left handed playing a right handed bass I have some issues with the fret hand which makes me lose my concentration in my plucking hand, and so its like a big circle of hatred lol, but thanks for telling me about the finger nail technique hopefully it works 

 

I'm left handed as well and play both bass & guitar right handed. I've found that this gives me a big advantage with my fretting hand but a disadvantage rhythmically with my right hand. I simply don't have the coordination in my right hand to maintain strumming patterns. Needless to say I will never attempt rythym guitar! That being said with enough practice you should be able to easily master fingerstyle and pinch chords on bass. If you choose to transition to guitar at some point strumming with fingernails shouldn't give you much trouble either. If you need further info on how to do it search "rasgueado technique" or "Flamenco" on YouTube. There are tons of videos there on these techniques!

As a long time beginner having trouble to put my fingers correctly and plucking the right string I have another problem in RS: Reading the chart quick enough. I know there's riff repeater but I ask myself whether you pros read the charts or play most of it by ear (if not memorized anyway). In other words: Can Chart Reading be trained like playing guitar itself?

I have no short term memory whatsoever so I have to read every note on the chart every time I play. I literally cannot memorize a single note!

Regarding finger placement and correct string choice if you practice often enough you'll get this. In time muscle memory will assure you get it right. After years of playing I almost never have to look at the fretboard unless I am above the 15th fret.

My version for Rush 2112 is the full album.

I've played it through several times and love it!

The main thing I'd like to see is a static chart showing ALL the chords that will be used in a particular song.

It's really annoying to choose a song, check to see what chords will be played and only see one. I need to be able to look at all of the chords and practice changing between them before attacking the song.

As it stands now the game only shows one then when the song starts you get blasted by a half dozen or more too quickly to get your head around them.

The only workaround I've discovered thus far is to go into Riff Repeater, slow the song way down and let it run through a couple of times to get familiar with the chords that will be used. After doing this I can attempt the song.

Regardless it would be much easier to see a static chard showing all the chords used in the song to get familiar with them before attempting to play them.

This may not be the answer you're looking for but I have one that works well for me.

I had nothing but trouble using a pick so I quit using one at all and simply play fingerstyle. I pluck all the single notes and strum chords using the topside of my fingernails using all downstrokes. This style of playing chords is very similar to the rasgueado technique used in playing flamenco.

On two string power chords I frequently play using pinch chords. My style of picking and strumming is very similar to the way Robby Krieger played guitar with the Doors. Interestingly enough Krieger played both classical & flamenco guitar before he joined The Doors and refused to use picks when he played with the band.

I found this little tidbit interesting because like him I also studied classical guitar for years before I ever picked up an electric and can't stand using picks either.

My fingerstyle plucking and pinch chord technique also work extremely well for playing bass; at least they do for me.

Hopefully this helps!

I've been using OBS on RS Remastered (PC version) and its been working fine.

I've got one but it's still a little crude. I'm just now learning how to make videos and am barely approaching intermediate bass skills.

Oh well, I'm confident both will improve with practice...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJaOQThFk3oOWUcLQfteTdw

@@firekorn I took your advice and downloaded OBS studio. It worked like a charm and solved my audio issues perfectly!

I shot a quick clip of a really simple AC/DC song for proof of concept. I plan to do many more in the future.

Merci beaucoup pour l'aide, je l'apprécie vraiment!

Thanks!

Your advice is really helpful. Now I'll get busy and see what I can do...

Yes, it's what streamer used in general but it's also very useful to record games or PC screen very efficiently.

 

Here's an exemple of what i get with using OBS + a webcam and small editing :

WOW! Both the audio and video were impressive (great job by the way). I especially liked the PIP effect with the note road in the lower right, I need to figure out how to do that.

Only question I have is did you use an external PC mic or was the audio recorded internally only from your guitar signal feeding into the game?

This is exactly the effect & quality I was looking for and didn't realize you could do with a webcam and computer.

So you are using a shotgun mic to record a stereo source?

 

That seems like a lot of trouble since shotgun mic aren't really made to record sound that comes from the sides (and unless i'm missing something it also means that you would end up with a mono recording).

 

For all i know, every video on youtube that includes RS record the audio with a software on the PC directly to avoid any kind of issue or change in the sound that can be hard to control when doing a recording with a mic (especially when you want to record speakers).

 

I've always used OBS to get RS audio for all the YT video i've made.

You're right about the shotgun mic. I bought it originally for filming docu/how too videos and for that at close distances a directional mic is almost as good as hooking a lav mic up to the speaker.

I've been looking into an omnidirectional mic for recording music and that will probably be my next purchase. I've never tried OBS, I'll have to look into it. Is that the OBS from //obsproject.com?

@@BusterKnott Unless you record your speakers, it's unlikely you record anything close to what you hear since it will never go through the amp/speaker as you will record the digital sound that is in your PC.

 

Adding an audio card won't change how the audio is recorded by your software...

Understood and If I were recording via the PC you would be absolutely correct. I didn't explain properly what I was attempting in my OP.

First my audio chain is from the computer audio out into my stereo amplifier and then through the stereo speakers. The video recording I do is with a tripod mounted camcorder with the audio picked up by way of a Takstar SGC-598 shotgun mic. The problem I'm having is the end video's all sound really tinny sort of like really old blues songs recorded in the '30's in someones bathroom.

I know its not the shotgun mic because I shot hours of concert footage last summer and the sound was really rich.

I guess what I'm asking is if anyone knows what components to use to get decent audio output of a computer that can be captured in video with decent audio for YouTube. I'm sure it can be done because I've seen a few videos on YouTube where RS was used as a backing track that sounded really good. I just don't know how they did it...

Hello.First of all, are those bass speakers?

No they are old school stereo speakers with 12" bass cones.

I'm hoping someone has a suggestion on how to get decent audio quality for YouTube videos.

Currently I'm running RS 2014 both PC and PS versions through a 200 Watt Kenwood stereo amp into 30+ year old speakers.

The PC version is output through a generic onboard motherboard soundcard. The output from the PC sounds weak and tinny no matter how I adjust the bass or treble on the amp. If I dial the bass way up and the treble way down is just sounds muddy. My guess is a new sound card might help so I'm asking for recommendations if anyone else has dealt with this.

The PS version definitely sounds better than the PC version but still not real good. The main issue here is buzzing on the E and A strings on my bass through the speakers if I turn the volume up at all but there is no buzzing whatsoever if I do the same through headphones. Could be the speakers, could be the amp I just don't know. Therefore any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

For me it all started sometime in the summer of 1974.

I was thirteen at the time a drummer in our middle school band and somewhat discouraged with the then current state of music in America.

One hot summer day I was kicking back on the front porch with my best friend sharing a joint and listening to the local "Rock" station.

We were bemoaning all the insipid faggy crap passing as music on radio rotation at the time and the sad state of popular music in general when all of a sudden this utterly raw song with an incredible Bass line began pouring out of the speakers.

Then this nasally voice started to sing:

"I get up at seven, yeah, And I go to work at nine, I got no time for livin' Yes, I'm workin' all the time..."

I was blown away by the song and I was instantly hooked!

Rush as I soon learned was the groups name instantly became my new favorite band and their skinny bass player became my new musical hero...

I determined that day; to Hell with the drums. I'm going to become a bassist!

I've scored 100% on a couple dozen songs. Unfortunately I've never even come close on any of the songs I really like (Mostly Rush) and probably won't for quite a while...

Thank you so much for creating these and making them available for download!

I was discussing this in PMs with someone, and I figured I'd throw this out there. I figured I'd start the discussion here, but if something were to come from it we'd make a new topic in the Workshop forum for it.

 

So, the basic idea is that it would be nice to have some sort of quality control for the DLC that we produce in the (if we were to do it for this group) prog rock/metal genres (maybe broken into a few subgenres if one big thing is too unwieldy). The idea would be to have some sort of organized system which would

a) give some sort of recognition to high quality customs/charters, and

B) provide useful feedback to charters which will help improve the considered customs as well as their future ones.

 

There are a couple of models of things like this already. The Muse Project is probably the big one, with Shiroo acting as a centralized director of quality control, while everyone else in the group works (sometimes apart, sometimes together) to get the customs they make up to the standards he sets. Once the standard is achieved, the customs get a seal of approval.

 

In contrast, the Rocksmith Championship has a more decentralized (and sometimes not heavily utilized) feedback system, where different participants can rate the customs based on the tab, tones, and sync on a scale of 1-10, and various honors are awarded to the CDLC based on the average ratings.

 

So, I guess the question would be, would anyone else be interested in something like this? If so, are there any better models of this that I haven't considered, or have missed? What do people think the best way to go about this would be?

 

Let me know your thoughts!

I think this is a great idea!

Some of the CDLC is fantastic others not so much...

A couple of charters (they shall remain nameless) are so bad that I don't download their work any longer even when it is something I REALLY want!

In order to get the songs I want to learn I bought Guitar Player 6 and have downloaded EOF, wWise, and the Rocksmith tool kit. I've also snagged a few YouTube videos and read what I could on the forums in the hope that I can learn to chart songs.

I'm a little slow at learning how to use most programs so I probably won't get it at first. Fact is I'll probably beg for help on the various forums on a regular basis.

In any event I'll do my best to create quality content and I will definitely upload them when I do!

I'm not at all certain how the different genre's are determined so I can't say for certain which bands are considered "progressive" etc.

That being said the bands I've followed for decades and I think are defined as prog/rock are:

Rush

Pink Floyd

Jethro Tull

Uriah Heep

Scorpions

Yes

Of these Rush is my all time favorite and the one band whose songs I'm determined to master (at least on Bass)!

I'm having the same problem with a few CDLC's I've downloaded. Most of them play just fine its just a couple, notably Bloodhond Gangs "Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss" and Deep Purple's "Knocking At Your Backdoor." I suspect they may have a different song ID than the Smashing Pumkin one. As soon as I figure out the software I'm going to check and re-ID if necessary.

Anyone else having the same problem?