Karmeleaux

1. I probably won't be working on logic to import other voices. To me it seems to be a rather rarely used feature in Guitar Pro.2. Getting notes to overlap in the way you're asking is rather complicated to achieve in EOF. You could try authoring it as an arpeggio, since at least then it's implied that the A string is going to keep ringing.3. It is, but not if any notes in the chord have to overlap one or more notes that use the same string.4. If you really have to have the A string display the sustain as overlapping the other notes, then probably.

Similar to this topic, I'm working on a song (or rather updating an old one) which has a note ring out over other strings. I saw the process in this topic and intend to use it myself, but I'm merely curious if there's any plans to incorporate something like this with note statuses/tech notes in EoF as it's become a recurring thing (not necessarily common, but something I see in official DLC multiple times).

I'm very happy with the current version of EoF regardless of your answer, the work on this program consistently blows my mind. I was just wondering if it's on 'the list' of future features, or if the focus is somewhere else.

Don't do subgenres, just basic genres... but the one problem there is with the genres, is that we would have to assign all the current 5,500 or so submissions a genre... which would be an absolute pain.

There's a lot of problems with genres, I don't think it's a realistic option. There's just way too much subjectivity in it.

What do you do for a custom of Laguna Sunrise by Black Sabbath? They're a 'metal' band (this itself is probably sorely lacking for a lot of people here), but placing the song under metal isn't really accurate. What about songs that draw heavily from multiple genres, but not really in the vein a progressive or novelty song does?

For that point of reference, where does the site draw the line between genres and subgenres? I know on my iPod I have reggae, ska, and ska-punk (none defined as 'subgenres' on Wikipedia) tags and personal criteria for what goes where with the feeling that the lines need to be drawn, but well I just have a metal genre that I throw anything that fits my vague criteria for metal. I'm sure many people here would at best toss them all into ska or reggae and be done with it, but have thrash, death, and symphonic sections for metal (which ARE defined as subgenres on Wikipedia, but let's face it the term 'heavy metal' is almost completely meaningless).

As Teinashu said, (like difficulty) there's no real objective definitions. Heck, look up almost any band on Wikipedia and it probably has them in three or more genres on their front page.

In the end, I feel either genres are too broad and almost all-encompassing to really of any help for people looking (like I can deal with some thrash and symphonic metal but I don't have much interest in a lot of what gets classified as death, and I wouldn't really want to see any of that while browsing through all songs marked metal), or so specific and narrow that many people won't know what they mean (as mentioned above).

I don't know, I feel I'm being overly dismissive because I don't think anyone disagrees with that it would be cool to find stuff in the same vein as a song one's interested in, but I think there's a lot of issues in the way of a genre sort. I do wish there was a way to easily discover similar music to any specific CDLC, but I'm afraid I don't have much in the way of solutions with the system in place.

Like Firekorn said, Difficulty is all relative. What I find easy, you find hard.

Agree on most of your points, but an alternative here is having the OPTION to fill out a searchable 'Rocksmith techniques' used in a song. So like if you want to practice or just like songs with arpeggios or two-handed tapping, you're able to click and find songs that charters have marked as having them. In addition, there might be some not Rocksmith options, such as 'frequent/multiple time changes' or something like that. Just an idea, as per usual I know the system might be a lot of work for little pay-off, but it's just a suggestion that's more precise and objective than 'difficulty ratings.'

Yeah, I kinda blanked on the second part of his suggestion when I was responding, that was my bad. Again release notes sometimes have important information, but the rest of what I said is more or less moot. You however bring up some good points about the various kinds of minor issues that would come up.

Not a moderator so this might not be the official stance, but I think the reason is mainly for the charters, so players can more easily thank them or clearly report issues (for example here, if the download link doesn't work/leads to the wrong song, which sometimes happens). In addition, charters often communicate information one would not consider within the release notes about certain parts of the charts, which may otherwise lead to confusion when one first loads the song up blind.

Plus, I think this community is superfriendly and honestly any additional platform for that friendliness to shine is cool.

(apologies if this isn't the right forum to ask about clarity of rules)

Just a quick question, I noticed all the current discography projects are by artist; but I was wondering if we were allowed to create them for finite categories, such as 'Billboard Hot 100 number one singles 1994' or the one I'm more interested 'On-disc songs for (specific rhythm game).' To be transparent, one of my goals is to fill some of the gaps of bands that were in rhythm games, and I have to note to myself which ones are already covered by other charters and official DLC.

I'm sure such information would be interesting to select members, but I also understand hesitance in case the forum gets too cluttered, so I thought I'd ask.

Always good to hear more insight. Here's a bit of a follow-up question for some people:

As I said in my rambling first post, I admit a large part of why I'm hesitant to release multitrack versions is I'm very inexperienced with creating tones and I feel that might detract from the value of hearing one's self if one's own playing sounds kinda crappy (in tone, not in ability).

So I guess to kinda help me determine when to make multi-track versions: Has anyone played a multi-track where they feel the tone is noticeably (not necessarily painfully, but definitely 'this isn't quite right') off from the original recording but still found it more valuable to hear one's self over the dissonance?

I've been thinking about Siva and Tristessa sometime in the future if no one else hits them first, but yeah it's kinda weird no one else has touched stuff like Zero which is a fairly popular song. I guess the official DLC hit a lot of their big songs and so maybe with those being available the ball never really got rolling because people were largely content with what they had? I don't know.

Well I mean, I know what multi-tracks are, and I currently still just grab the 'full band' version in multi-track ones that interest me. It's in part just for uniformity with official DLC, as well as the fact that Rocksmith just doesn't have a great sorting or grouping system right now so no guitar and/or bass versions are going to largely be clutter, as although I use the game as a learning tool I'm still super easily distracted and jump around from song to song rather than sitting down and really focusing on one.

I love having multi-tracks on my computer just to examine and reference, but to me personally right now it's more of an inconvenience to make and use than to not bother. As I said, I likely will change my charting habits at some point in the future and I may come around to using them to practice as well, but currently it's just not an appealing option to me.

Why have I never heard of this. I must try it!

I never knew this was a thing till this post either.  It does sound like it would make things like songs with quiet bass easier to chart.

http://multitrackdownloads.blogspot.com/2012/03/what-multitracks-are-and-how-to-open.html

While not a fully comprehensive list of all of the masters you can find lying around, it's definitely a good and accessible collection if you download from the MegaUpload files, which I recently verified were still working. Note that songs from GH1 (outside of bonus tracks) were all covers, all of GH2 was as well (except four main setlist songs and the bonus songs), a small portion of GH3 and RB1 were (as was a small bit of RB1 DLC), and everything in and past GHWT/RB2 was all masters (well I think GHWT had one cover as DLC, and both had some re-records by the original band that nevertheless took some minor liberties). Still, even the covers are largely pretty accurate and might give you a better idea of a part you're unsure about.

If nothing else, it's definitely like super-fascinating just to listen to them and really get a handle on what was happening. And if you have a program like Melodyne editor, you can actually take a pretty good stab at making a tab for a song that doesn't have a Guitar Pro file yet (I'm intending to do a few like that way down the road, but I get super easily distracted so no promises).

I'll be honest, I kinda forget that a lot of the community here probably wasn't as heavily involved as I was in the Guitar Hero/Rock Band (mostly Rock Band, mmm Rock Band) movement. In fact, I was so heavily involved I charted some songs for bands that were released for purchase through the Rock Band Network.

Good times. (I'm intending to release every song I got masters to this way as CDLC at some point because it's the only way I see a lot of these happening but super easily distracted so who knows when)

I haven't had a chance to really try them yet, but can you load multiple 'versions?' as different songs? Or can you only have one version 'installed' at a time.

 

I'm assuming a no-bass track is good to do as bass so you only hear yourself play, is that simple intent?

Now I haven't done it myself so I may be wrong, but I believe so long as the songs have different internal DLC names (and external filenames, obviously) one should be able to have them all installed at one time.

And yes, the idea is you're able to hear exactly what you're playing without 'competing' with the original track, as a lot of people phrase it.

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Very well stated, definitely understand where you're coming from. I mean, the reason I have multitracks for most of the songs I've charted/charting is because I'm not terribly confident in my charting ability unless I have the isolated tracks to double check.

Really, it's kinda moot to ask about this because it's honestly not MUCH effort, it's doing the whole Wwise deal three times instead of one, but for some reason that's my least favorite part of the process so it does detract from my willingness a bit.

Much more I'm genuinely curious about people's opinions, and you gave a lot of insight into the mindset of someone who prefers them.

Wow, you are confusing the heck put of me. I assume by multitracks you mean multiple parts and yes generally a more complete custom would get more attention. Even if it is a one guitar band in real life he usually lays down a rhythm track that can still he heard behind the leads. That and including bass since we have many bass only players. If by Steam version you mean oc and mac, well yes I don't include Xbox and PS3 versions because that can very easily be done by the end user. And simply makes a CDLC take up 4 times as much room on my dropbox than what is really needed. Some lead parts even have a second track behind them in a solo, played higher or lower but them same pattern, I include those if possible. Also bands like Iron Maiden the guitarists switch off solos constantly. So yes more parts equals better customs, usually.

Sorry, the Steam version bit at the beginning was just kinda me rambling off on a tangent, I have a habit of doing that, I think it stems back to when I was a child I was bitten by a goat.

But I was talking about multitracks as in the separate recordings of the individual instruments. Like versions some people have where (in addition to full band versions) there's versions with no guitar and/or bass audio, what you play is what you hear guitar and/or bass-wise on those.

(apologies if this should go elsewhere and/or has been posted before, I tried searching and didn't find anything myself)

So, I've got multitracks of a few songs I've worked on and I'm working on, but I've just started bothering with with non-Steam versions, so I thought I'd feel this out. Adding non-Steam versions takes just the effort of clicking a few checkboxes and increased downloads of each song by about 25%, though at least some of that is probably just Steam users who didn't see it before now seeing it on the front page.

I primarily make customs for myself foremost so I don't bother with multitracks; especially because I try to stay away from stuff that would be immensely popular because I don't have confident in my ability to make the tones sound passable, and even moreso if they're all you're hearing.

But if there's an appreciable chunk of people here who enjoy multitracks, especially people who will check out stuff they don't know because it has multitracks, I'll take a stab at it. Really, I'll probably cave and do it at some point regardless, but I'd make it more of a priority in that case. In addition, I'm just kinda curious.

If you feel your position cannot be summed up in one of the poll choices, feel free to respond.

Updated with my first batch of songs that I'd been heavily working on. For the next week or so probably won't have much to show, gonna try to touch up what I have published, work on a few tabs, and maybe publish a few easy/close-to-finished songs.

Went ahead and pushed Heir Conditioning to the CDLC Library because I'm not able to mess with tones for the next week and I think that's the only issue with it.

Combat Baby is about in the same shoes, except it has some tone changes so I'm a bit more hesitant to ship it out without more internal testing on the tones, might upload it here if anyone wants to take a look.

Updated the approximate percentages on the other songs I've been fiddling with. Will probably get at least one or two more to testing shape chartwise this week, the question is if I should just hold onto them until I get my cable back or upload them for chart testing with untested tones. Any thoughts, anyone that happens to be reading this?

Ready for Consumption:

These dishes are ready for consumption. May be revisited with seasoning after feedback, of course, some of them aren't yet perfected. But still, a fully enjoyable meal overall.
 

311 - Feels So Good

88, The - Sons and Daughters (bass only currently)

Acro-Brats, The - Day Late, Dollar Short (multitracks)

Aerosmith - Toys In The Attic (multitracks)

Against Me! - Thrash Unreal

Airborne Toxic Event, The - Gasoline (multitracks)

Alanis Morrissette - Ironic (multitracks)

Amazing Crowns, The - Mr. Fix-It (multitracks)

Animotion - Obsession

Anouk - Good God (bass only currently)

Cardigans, The - Lovefool

Foo Fighters - Learn To Fly (multitracks)

Homestuck - Heir Conditioning

Jimi Hendrix Experience, The - Crosstown Traffic (multitracks)

King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man (multitracks)

Meters, The - Cissy Strut

Metric - Combat Baby (multitracks)

Pixies - Debaser (multitracks)

Poni Hoax - Antibodies (multitracks)

Queens of the Stone Age - No One Knows (multitracks)

Spacehog - In The Meantime (multitracks)

Supergrass - Alright

Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason

Tribe - Outside (multitracks)

Catering:

There are ones I charted a part for, just for completion's sake.

Ocean Colour Scene - The Riverboat Song (charted bass and touched up lyrics for it)

Stone Temple Pilots - Big Empty (charted bass, though last I checked the tech notes didn't import ughhh)

WAR - Low Rider (charted guitar)

Sitting Out On The Counter:

These are early ones I made that are playable, but I admit they need some touch-up before they're up to quality with my current standards. In general they're lacking riff repeater because I did this wrong early on, and some have a few other issues I'm aware of and need to make time for fixing them at some point.

Faith No More - Land of Sunshine (Lack of RR, need tech notes and some polish, possibly better tones)

Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives - Soy Bomb (Lack of RR, might have better tones after the Surf Rock pack)

Shaimus - Like A Fool (Lack of RR, needs slight polish, needs multitracks)

Cookin' in the Kitchen:

CURRENTLY my process is much more stable and less arbitrary than before, and I do better when I have a plan laid out so I probably won't deviate from this for the forseeable future. Right now I'm working through my multitracks alphabetically, so I'll list the ones in A I intend to work on. A few highly requested songs might sneak in here, but otherwise I don't see myself letting myself pull myself around on my whims. Myself.

88, The - Sons and Daughters (guitar chart)

AFI - (To Be Determined, vote now!)

Alice Cooper - (To Be Determined, vote now!)

All-American Rejects, The - Move Along (or maybe Gives You Hell, can't add any more polls though)

Allman Brothers Band, The - Ramblin' Man

Alphabeat - Fascination

An Endless Sporadic - Impulse

anUnkindness - A Death

anUnkindness - Fragments (normally I don't do more than one song per artist, but I'm one of like six people that have these multitracks so I feel morally responsible for tabs getting out there from them)

Anarchy Club - Collide

Anouk - Good God (guitar chart)

Answer, The - Never Too Late

Anthrax - I'm The Man

At The Drive-In - One-Armed Scissor

Authority Zero - No Regrets

The Freezer:

Tracks I've synced that I'm currently not focused on cleaning up. With my current plan I don't see myself revisiting any of these soon, but if people want what I have charted to use I'll upload it for them, though the majority are fairly minor edits on tabs so far.