Thank you for your answer. Sounds really patronizing, but I will answer shortly: yes. I do also understand heuristics used in AV software pretty well, like from the implementation side. And BTW this particular case has nothing to do with signing. Well, ignorance is a bless and this is not an argument :) Suit yourself, guys - botnets need eager members, too :). Anyway, I would really-really recommend pulling new/rebuilt versions of these exe files. I would do this myself and contribute these here, but I recall trying some time ago and these were not easy to get. I mean, worst case the OGG-related ones could be replaced by opensource ffmpeg. Cheers and thank you for your hard work,