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ASIO+WDM Tutorial (Update in progress)

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Please note that I did not create this but that this is a combination from my own research. All files / programs were testing and scanned with my virus software ESET. I did not receive any errors / false positives or any virus,malware,data collection, etc..

 

 

The items are required in order for this method to work

This will be the guitar you 'hear' Rocksmith guitar will be set to 0 volume but will still detect input

  • Bias FX or similar guitar VST - Click Here
  • This specific No cable Patch - Click Here 
    • (extra to go with the patch - Click here- Run this after you installed the No cable Patch.
    • Only have to run it once.
  • Voice Meeter Banana - Click Here
  • Zoom UAC-2 or similar DAC - Click Here 
  • You to copy the 'No cable patch' provided above to your default Rocksmith directory (ie: Steam\SteamApps\common\Rocksmith2014)
  • Create a 'shortcut' to this .exe on your desktop as this will server as the new launcher for Rocksmith 2014
  • Install Voice Meeter Banana and select Voice Meeter (not AUX) as the default sound / recording device.

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  • A1 in Voice Meeter Banana should be set to 'ASIO Zoom UAC-2'
  • (This serves as a 'virtual ASIO>WDM driver)

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  • In Reaper select the ASIO Zoom UAC-2 native driver and configure Bias FX as needed.
  • Be sure the guitar and headphones are plugged into your DAC (Zoom UAC-2 in my example)

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  • Also ensure the Hi-Z setting is enabled if your DAC has one. This will help to simulate the 'amp' style gain as expected.
  • Please see below for the Rocksmith.ini settings:
    • [Audio]
      EnableMicrophone=0
      ExclusiveMode=0
      LatencyBuffer=1
      ForceDefaultPlaybackDevice=
      ForceWDM=0
      ForceDirectXSink=0
      Win32UltraLowLatencyMode=0
      DumpAudioLog=0
      MaxOutputBufferSize=1024
      [Renderer.Win32]
      ShowGamepadUI=0
      ScreenWidth=1920
      ScreenHeight=1080
      Fullscreen=0
      VisualQuality=3
      RenderingWidth=0
      RenderingHeight=0
      EnablePostEffects=1
      EnableShadows=1
      EnableHighResScope=1
      EnableDepthOfField=1
      EnablePerPixelLighting=1
      MsaaSamples=4

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This has no effect on performance and can increase the latency of your game. Anyone reading this - please find another way to reduce your latency


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This has no effect on performance and can increase the latency of your game. Anyone reading this - please find another way to reduce your latency

This is actually the opposite. The Rocksmith cable itself is terrible. This again my own findings. The plus side is I do not rely on Rocksmith for the tones as I use bias. It's a much better alternative and gives no issues. If you are having trouble with this, what is your setup? More than likely something is off. My post isn't intended as spam or providing false information if in fact the settings did not work for myself.

 

I updated with my internal 'voice meeter' buffer settings as well. This again is my own settings which I can confirm work with as little latency as possible. 

 

Instead of cutting down a method provide factual material on what is causing your latency increase. Every computer is different so the above settings specifically may not be best for you. 


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This has no effect on performance and can increase the latency of your game. Anyone reading this - please find another way to reduce your latency

This is actually the opposite. The Rocksmith cable itself is terrible. This again my own findings. The plus side is I do not rely on Rocksmith for the tones as I use bias. It's a much better alternative and gives no issues. If you are having trouble with this, what is your setup? More than likely something is off. My post isn't intended as spam or providing false information if in fact the settings did not work for myself.

 

I updated with my internal 'voice meeter' buffer settings as well. This again is my own settings which I can confirm work with as little latency as possible. 

 

Instead of cutting down a method provide factual material on what is causing your latency increase. Every computer is different so the above settings specifically may not be best for you. 

 

That literally makes no sense - you're running the driver through an emulation that has to be done in real time, there is no way for it to not increase latency. If you're happy with your results I'm not going to argue with you on the matter. Emulation in and of itself increases the latency of whatever you're emulating.


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Chasing the illusions of who I once was - "Someday" - Godsmack

You're addicted to the pain and the shame - "Say My Name" - Godsmack

I wear you like a stain, yet I'm the one who's obscene - "Before I Forget" - Slipknot

All I see instead of me is another fucking casualty - "The Infected" - Four Year Strong

Selfish beneath the skin but deep inside I'm not insane - "Almost Easy" - Avenged Sevenfold

They're so ignorant, they don't understand, you were always longing for a chance - "Wasteland" - EarlyRise

You don't know pain until you're crushed by the weight of a world that forgot you - "The Worst Of Us" - Quietkind

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@ctrl : have you tried it ?

 

I don't know if it's emulation or just redirecting the sound data.

I'm using DFX audio enhancer to improve sound, and it adds no latency at all.

 

I think Asio is a very interesting subject, when you have an external (not onboard) sound card with an asio driver build in i.e.

I'm using a Firehawk FX pedal board, which has an inbuild Asio Driver.

 

This allows me to use any PC FX Software, like Amplitube, Guitar Rig or Pod, in addition to my Pedal Board sounds,

with about 5ms latency in RS !

 

 



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I've tried to do this before but I've never managed to get the realtone cable hack to allow me to use ASIO on my Focusrite 2i2 so I have to stick to my official cable.

 

This is more of a sidenote but could be of interest for those looking at audio routing.

 

I revisited this yesterday after this post reminded me, I did more searching and discovered SAR (Synchronous Audio Router). If you have an audio device with a genuine ASIO driver (not ASIO4all emulation) you can create virtual endpoints, (inputs and outputs that show up as audio devices in Windows as long as the DAW is running)  to route sound into and out of your DAW, I managed to route a web browser and Rocksmith game audio into my DAW, in seconds compared to the hoops I used to have to jump through with Voicemeeter Banana. I use Ableton Live 10 but reaper works well as will probably any DAW. This routing happens faster than ASIO to ensure the low ASIO latency stream works. If you do have a look at SAR just be aware that SAR's automatic application routing no longer works on W10 due to the changes made to audio routing in the Spring Update. So once an endpoint has been created, the application will need to be routed using the Windows Sound Settings. Unfortunately after all of this I'm still unable to get an input into Rocksmith from my Focusrite 2i2, so wish I'd waited and bought the 2nd gen.



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Zoom UAC-2 (259€) 

 

quite expensive stuff, (less for the Focusrite 2i2, about 100€) 

if it's only needed to get rid of RS tones,

and record in a DAW,

 

as you still need (possibly quite expensive) replacement Guitar Effects as plug-ins,

and considering the real-tone cable hacks

 

The Firehawk FX (250€) comes as an easy uncomplicated and cheap all-inclusive solution

RS cable is connected from FX send output to USB input, no hack or parallel output needed



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You've just made me realise I could have been using the sends on my 8 track mixer instead. Damn, I've been working inside the box for too long.



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@ToxRS check the staff Discord and scroll up to about 11pm BT yesterday (if I'm doing the time zone conversion correctly)


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Chasing the illusions of who I once was - "Someday" - Godsmack

You're addicted to the pain and the shame - "Say My Name" - Godsmack

I wear you like a stain, yet I'm the one who's obscene - "Before I Forget" - Slipknot

All I see instead of me is another fucking casualty - "The Infected" - Four Year Strong

Selfish beneath the skin but deep inside I'm not insane - "Almost Easy" - Avenged Sevenfold

They're so ignorant, they don't understand, you were always longing for a chance - "Wasteland" - EarlyRise

You don't know pain until you're crushed by the weight of a world that forgot you - "The Worst Of Us" - Quietkind

Out there is a future waiting to be had, if you think I'll let it go you're mad - "You've Got Another Thing Comin'" - Judas Priest

 

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Reading through you guy's posts. A good note is I am not using Asio4all. Another point yes, hardware routing is the true solution. Can't beat good ole analog! I have a behringer myself. Though it is nice to have less cables with the 'virtual' method. I will try to keep messing around and continue to update the OP. At the end this has us thinking creatively and that is what matters. As long as we find a usable solution to ourselves using whatever method, that is what matters.

 

Also I do tech support work and the main reason why I started using voice meeter was because I needed to route my audio but in a very specific way. I wasn't even originally going to do Rocksmith in the way I have. Again hardware routing is better. If you guys find more ideas post it! Perhaps we can eventually have a few easy solutions for people to get to and not have to claw at Google to get an answer.

 

There is another file I have I will attach as well that let's you set the specific device RS is using, give that a try as well. I'll attach it in the OP as extra.


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I've tried to do this before but I've never managed to get the realtone cable hack to allow me to use ASIO on my Focusrite 2i2 so I have to stick to my official cable.

 

This is more of a sidenote but could be of interest for those looking at audio routing.

 

I revisited this yesterday after this post reminded me, I did more searching and discovered SAR (Synchronous Audio Router). If you have an audio device with a genuine ASIO driver (not ASIO4all emulation) you can create virtual endpoints, (inputs and outputs that show up as audio devices in Windows as long as the DAW is running)  to route sound into and out of your DAW, I managed to route a web browser and Rocksmith game audio into my DAW, in seconds compared to the hoops I used to have to jump through with Voicemeeter Banana. I use Ableton Live 10 but reaper works well as will probably any DAW. This routing happens faster than ASIO to ensure the low ASIO latency stream works. If you do have a look at SAR just be aware that SAR's automatic application routing no longer works on W10 due to the changes made to audio routing in the Spring Update. So once an endpoint has been created, the application will need to be routed using the Windows Sound Settings. Unfortunately after all of this I'm still unable to get an input into Rocksmith from my Focusrite 2i2, so wish I'd waited and bought the 2nd gen.

 

Meant to add as well, if you ever wanna do a screenshare let me know and I can try to assist in help get a voicemeeter setup working. It took me a very very long time to learn the ins and outs to finally figure out how to get it working.


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