Right.. somehow I didn't catch that. But I figured the key change was a glitch, since the song went back to the original pitch when I changed the buffer size back and forth. Interesting.

1 hour ago, qwertyuiopz said:

Right.. somehow I didn't catch that. But I figured the key change was a glitch, since the song went back to the original pitch when I changed the buffer size back and forth. Interesting.

Changing the buffer size will partially re-initialize the plugin. I'm probably just not completely handling that properly.

That was probably making your audio sync worse as well. The re-tuning adds latency that I'm not properly accounting for in the display yet.

On 5/27/2024 at 7:54 AM, ladron said:

Changing the buffer size will partially re-initialize the plugin. I'm probably just not completely handling that properly.

That was indeed the case. It is fixed in the latest release.

This is so amazing 😄

Minor update now available:

- Added support for latin1 characters
- Made measure lines more prominent
- Fixed tuning column not set properly initially
- Use keyboard input to jump to first match in sorted column of song list

https://github.com/mikeoliphant/ChartPlayer/releases/latest

First off - thanks so much for doing this, like you I was putting up with Rocksmith's idiosyncracies, so it's great to have an alternative with a similar feel. Aside from all the usability improvements of having a clean UI and a quick/easily navigable song list, I actually think the in-song UI is often clearer than RS'. For example, I now see pinch harmonics as they are rather than accidentally as palm mutes as I so often would in RS.

I've been using Chart Player for a week or so now and the main things I've noticed for feedback are:

• Multiple Lead/Rhythm/Bass arrangements for the PSARC converter. I think it defaults to the Alternative arrangement if available (so if there's Lead and Alternative Lead, it'll select the latter I think). I imagine it'd be easier to change the converter to pick the standard version for now, but longer term supporting the multiple arrangements would be great
• Recognising and reporting non-A440 tunings. I know there are some in my songlist (example Balls to the Wall by Accept which is A446), but I don't know until I play one and realise I'm out of tune. Just adding this info to the UI would be a great first step, then even better would pitch shifting these back to A440
• Longer arrangements crash the plugin and DAW (Reaper in my case), but it's not only tied to length. For example, the complete Dark Side of the Moon (Pink Floyd) and Dopesmoker (Sleep) albums, and Shine on You Crazy Diamond (parts 1 - 9) all crash after 10s or so.  The longest track I have successfully played is Iron Maiden's Powerslave album (without the ODLC Aces High and 2 Minutes to Midnight), which is 40 minutes and likely contains more notes than any of the other examples. I don't think it's a memory issue (in that when monitoring Task Manager total system usage doesn't get anywhere near the system RAM capacity).

2 hours ago, Marvin_ said:

• Multiple Lead/Rhythm/Bass arrangements for the PSARC converter. I think it defaults to the Alternative arrangement if available (so if there's Lead and Alternative Lead, it'll select the latter I think). I imagine it'd be easier to change the converter to pick the standard version for now, but longer term supporting the multiple arrangements would be great

The PsarcConverter *should* be converting all parts. If you double-click a song in the list, it will play the first arrangement, but if you just single click it, you should see all versions available to play in the song info display at the bottom of the screen.

2 hours ago, Marvin_ said:

• Recognising and reporting non-A440 tunings. I know there are some in my songlist (example Balls to the Wall by Accept which is A446), but I don't know until I play one and realise I'm out of tune. Just adding this info to the UI would be a great first step, then even better would pitch shifting these back to A440

It actually does retune to A440 if you have retuning to E standard selected in options. I guess I should make that separately selectable from retuning to E, though.

2 hours ago, Marvin_ said:

• Longer arrangements crash the plugin and DAW (Reaper in my case), but it's not only tied to length. For example, the complete Dark Side of the Moon (Pink Floyd) and Dopesmoker (Sleep) albums, and Shine on You Crazy Diamond (parts 1 - 9) all crash after 10s or so.  The longest track I have successfully played is Iron Maiden's Powerslave album (without the ODLC Aces High and 2 Minutes to Midnight), which is 40 minutes and likely contains more notes than any of the other examples. I don't think it's a memory issue (in that when monitoring Task Manager total system usage doesn't get anywhere near the system RAM capacity).

Huh - not sure what is going on. Are any of the songs that don't work for you up here on custumsforge so I can grab one and take a look?

Thanks for the feedback!

Well, now I feel a bit silly! Thanks for the reply - can see Lead and Lead2 as options after single-clicking on a song, and can hear a non-A440 song retune to A440 E standard with the retune option enabled, so that's a lot of it sorted... The retune to A440 without E standard would be a cool feature though (for example, retuning to play Black Hole Sun is always a pain).

As for the tracks that aren't working, all are from CustomsForge and I meant to link them in my first post - see below:

• I think the DSoTM one was: https://ignition4.customsforge.com/cdlc/46714
• Dopesmoker: https://ignition4.customsforge.com/cdlc/61803
• Shine On You Crazy Diamond: https://ignition4.customsforge.com/cdlc/58292

And a very long track that is working, Powerslave by Iron Maiden: https://ignition4.customsforge.com/cdlc/65422

1 hour ago, Marvin_ said:

As for the tracks that aren't working, all are from CustomsForge and I meant to link them in my first post

Just verified the problem with "Shine On", and fixed the issue. Thanks!

Btw, the latest bleeding-edge build of ChartPlayer can always be downloaded from here:

https://github.com/mikeoliphant/ChartPlayer/actions

If you click on the latest successful workflow run, there is a link to download the plugin build.

New ChartPlayer v0.1.6 release here:

https://github.com/mikeoliphant/ChartPlayer/releases/latest

Great job! I may switch to this instead of RS2014. 

Song view is great and fast. I find songs way easier compared to RS (800+ songs).

It loads fast and clean. Also you can fast and simply find correct spot from song to practise.

 

I have tried to double load this in Reaper to have 2 player multiplayer with no success. Would it be possible to have this option on same PC? It loads so fast that I  think 2 separate computers would work just fine as it is now.

Some chord strumming "boxes" are bit hard to see. Could there be slider to change opacity or make them more visible some other way?

This is maybe a far fetched but I like to play my sounds from valeton gp-200 and switch  my tones from pedal. In RS2014 there is text which tells the "sound/tone" when it changes. Would it be possible to have that implemented? And the far fetched part... Could it be possible to send MIDI commands from ChartPlayer when tone is changed, so that you could bind them to specific changes in daw etc.? Reaper supports midi quite good so with that you should be able to switch tone or FX blocks.

Thanks for all the work you have done! I really do enjoy this one and Im about to recommend it for my friends to try since RS2014 is "no more" and RS+ just fails short in too many ways to justify the price.

 

 

On 10/31/2024 at 11:15 AM, Rogu15 said:

Great job! I may switch to this instead of RS2014. 

Thanks! I'm going to respond to the rest of your comment over on this other ChartPlayer thread:

 

I have downloaded this installed it as per the directions have issues getting it to work in tone lib

I'm happy to try to help, but I need more information. What is happening, exactly?

Hey there, 

at first thank you for the hard work - this really looks amazing.

Do you by any chance have any plans to offer a small standalone Version of this for Windows without the need for a DAW?

Bonus question: Can you point me to a tutorial or guide how to convert my Rocksmith cdlc to be usable with your ChartPlayer?

Never mind the second one just found the Chart Converter

 

Thank you and have a great day!

 

3 hours ago, illballer said:

Do you by any chance have any plans to offer a small standalone Version of this for Windows without the need for a DAW?

One of the main advantages of doing it within the DAW is that you can use another plugin for your guitar tone. 

16 hours ago, ladron said:

One of the main advantages of doing it within the DAW is that you can use another plugin for your guitar tone. 

Thank you for the fast response. I mainly used Rocksmith 2014 for practicing as a hobby but since I no longer can get it to run (no sound / detection at all 😞 ) I was looking for a simple alternative and found your tool.

In the meantime, I set up Audacity and managed to get the Chart Player launched. However now I am lost on how to continue from here and was wondering if there is some kind of small setup guide to arm a track with Chart Player and to play a song with sound detection.

 

Right now I manage to open the Chart Player GUI, select a song I converted but then I can´t resize the 3D window or play the song.

 

Thank you again for the awesome work! 

1 hour ago, illballer said:

In the meantime, I set up Audacity and managed to get the Chart Player launched. However now I am lost on how to continue from here and was wondering if there is some kind of small setup guide to arm a track with Chart Player and to play a song with sound detection.

You can find a bit of information here:

https://github.com/mikeoliphant/ChartPlayer/blob/master/Troubleshooting.md

Audacity probably isn't the best program to use - even though it has plugin support, it is more of an audio editor than a DAW.

I highly recommend Reaper.

3 hours ago, ladron said:

You can find a bit of information here:

https://github.com/mikeoliphant/ChartPlayer/blob/master/Troubleshooting.md

Audacity probably isn't the best program to use - even though it has plugin support, it is more of an audio editor than a DAW.

I highly recommend Reaper.

Thank you for the link and the recommendation. I´m currently trying Reaper and am quite a bit lost on how to get tone recognition working. 

I created two tracks one for my guitar the other for Chart Player but have no clue how to "connect" them (never having really used a DAW before).

Hope when your work gets a little more recognition someone will create a small tutorial for DAW challenged as myself.

Well, at least I got Chart Player to play the song after loading - so far so good :D.

37 minutes ago, illballer said:

I created two tracks one for my guitar the other for Chart Player but have no clue how to "connect" them (never having really used a DAW before).

You don't need to "connect" the tracks.

You just need to enable input on both tracks (the red circular button) and make sure that the input is configured to get your guitar signal. If your interface has multiple inputs, you want mono input from the channel your guitar is routed to.

On 2/3/2025 at 9:07 PM, ladron said:

You don't need to "connect" the tracks.

You just need to enable input on both tracks (the red circular button) and make sure that the input is configured to get your guitar signal. If your interface has multiple inputs, you want mono input from the channel your guitar is routed to.

Got it to work - thanks to your guide. Thank you again for your time and effort 🙂

i downloaded chartplayer but there is no game application or even an exe file for said game. also theres no windows version. all i see is linux and mac. this is disappointing.

10 hours ago, 8bitguitarlord said:

i downloaded chartplayer but there is no game application or even an exe file for said game. also theres no windows version. all i see is linux and mac. this is disappointing.

It's not a standalone program, it works in a DAW such as Reaper, Cakewalk or Audacity.

I can't get the ChartPlayer to load in Reaper v7.40. I installed the .NET SDK 8.0 and refreshed the VST scan, but it says that all .dll under the ChartPlayer folder are shown as failed to scan. I checked the troubleshooting instructions and there is no  AudioPlugSharp folder under %appdata% to check the logs. Any idea? Do I also have to install AudioPlugSharp.