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Going Low: a Workaround to get Bass Notes below C1 to register in Rocksmith

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@@Ross : You can compared to the bass part for the note, it's exactly the same only on 4 strings

 

By the way, i'm not really used to the standard 5 strings bass tunning is there anything special here or the way it is actually done in Land of Confusion is ok?

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  • Today I found a workaround for getting the low bass notes such as low B to work with Rocksmith. I posted a scrappy test song in the database but they already pulled the plug on that, can't say I blame

  • I'm just probably a bad writer, I get that every time I return an essay :P   Let me try to clarify it: let's take a song from In Flames, Deliver Us, as an example (cheers to Firekorn for doing In Flam

  • Who needs guitar parts anyways, let them just be bass parts :P

@@Ross : You can compared to the bass part for the note, it's exactly the same only on 4 strings

 

By the way, i'm not really used to the standard 5 strings bass tunning is there anything special here or the way it is actually done in Land of Confusion is ok?

 

The note detection for Land of Confusion was ok.  I didn't miss any notes.  But the song was charted wrong.  It sounded like everything was a fifth higher than it should have been.  Lemme play it again and see exactly what it was.

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Oh I didn't realize the tuning goes from the highest string to lowest instead of the other way like on the bass part. My bad.

Just listened to Land of Confusion again.

 

If you were to raise all the yellow notes up two frets and then push everything down a string the tab makes sense.  I'm guessing this problem happened because the tab used a different tuning.

 

The only exception is the last 20 seconds of the song, which would need a little bit of work.

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Yeah, i was thinking about this, only doing a half step down tunning would work and make more sense than the actual tunning used in the tab.

 

I will change everything tonight and repost a new version to see if it make more sense.

About the last 20 seconds, i will try to sort it out but it's not link to the test but only to the song and the tab that i have...

 

I will try to do a proper tutorial here with some information about which tunning to choose etc. during the weekend.

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picking this up tomorrow

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looking forward to some experimentation.

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here is a new version of Land of confusion with a more standard tunning (one half step down from a 5 strings bass standard tunning)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/revwcuccrd37dh7

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will be trying this tomorrow.

yep played it note recognition works but needs some volume.

the 5 string bonus track would appear to be a complete success, 94% on my first play through (my misses not RS)

Huge grin on my face just now.

do we have any others other than land of confusion at the moment.

 

 

Oh and still cant tune to disturbed..... the prayer ??? 

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Well it was a first experience for the 5 strings bass. I will try to keep doing it when i have all the needed material that allow me to do it but for other charter to do it, you might need to spread the word around and hope them to do it.

 

And i will write a tutorial for the 5 strings bass and for the recognition workaround so that it's easier for people to implement it.

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would greatly appreciate a tutorial. just mentioned it in the chat and a couple of people are buzzing mate.

a video playthrough of firekorns 5 string track

I'm just probably a bad writer, I get that every time I return an essay :P

 

Let me try to clarify it: let's take a song from In Flames, Deliver Us, as an example (cheers to Firekorn for doing In Flames cdlc's). In that song the bass is tuned to C drop Bb, that means the lowest string is tuned to Bb. Because normally Rocksmith doesn't allow you to tune bass below C you cannot make a correct cdlc for bass of that song, or if you do you cannot play it with a bass.

 

Now with this fix you can have a cdlc of that song where you can physically have your bass tuned to Bb and play it and have rocksmith register all the notes just like any other song. There is no "virtual" tuning or anything.

 

Before Rocksmith was basically incompatible with songs for 5-string basses because normally the lowest string on a 5-string bass is tuned to B or below (and B is just below C). Now with this it is possible and I hope people start making cdlc's for 5-strings, I have been thinking of getting one for myself :)

Well, it'd still have to be a song that only uses 4-strings no matter how you stack it. Just now you can use B E A D. Probably will be a little tricky picking out songs that don't play anything on the G. Also, for me atleast, trying to "read" a rocksmith chart to be played on a 5-string instead of standard 4-string would be tricky, as instead of playing the 4-strings and reading the game the way I always have, now I'd be up 1-string, reading the colors completely different than I always have. If this makes any sense at all, lmfao.

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I still see a problem though. 5-string songs, versus every other 4-string song in existence is going to be read differently. I have a feeling this could be sorta tricky to adapt to, going back and forth. Now I want every song to be re-written in different colors.

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Ive actually charted a song using five string tabs and played it on my five string bass, I can see the notes to play as if i was playing a guitar but hearing and registering the bass notes correctly, the 220 thing works it just takes a bit of playing around in the charting and creation stage. 

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Well, some people play both the guitar and bass, I think it's more of a thing to adapt between a guitar and a bass than a 5 string and a 4 string.

I still see a problem though. 5-string songs, versus every other 4-string song in existence is going to be read differently. I have a feeling this could be sorta tricky to adapt to, going back and forth. Now I want every song to be re-written in different colors.

i dont understand where you see the problem.... think of it as playing a guitar track but you'll never have to hit the high e string.

 

Everything looks just the same as playing a guitar track, except the 5 string (or possibly six string) will be charted as a bonus guitar track.

 

the only difficulty (not thats it difficult) is the tuning page where you need to play a few frets up the g string to trick RS into believing there are six strings.

Okay let me try to explain better what I mean. I play on a 5-string bass. Up until now I've obviously only used the standard 4-strings. So here's the way I read the game (E-Red, A-Yellow, D-Blue, G-Orange). So now I go to play a 5-string bass chart and everything is set up differently (B-Red, E-Yellow, A-Blue, D-Orange, G-Green). While in theory it sounds quite simple, each color will now just be up one string, BUT I've become so used to the old way that I think adapting to the new colors will take a while. PLUS now when I go back to a 4-string chart I have to re-associate the colors again. I know this probably seems like a little problem, but I think it's sorta a nightmare.

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Well, some people play both the guitar and bass, I think it's more of a thing to adapt between a guitar and a bass than a 5 string and a 4 string.

That top string is always red between a guitar and a 4-string bass though. For me switching between a 4-string chart and a 5-string chart, playing my 5-string bass, the colors will be associated to different string each time.

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Well, some people play both the guitar and bass, I think it's more of a thing to adapt between a guitar and a bass than a 5 string and a 4 string.

That top string is always red between a guitar and a 4-string bass though. For me switching between a 4-string chart and a 5-string chart, playing my 5-string bass, the colors will be associated to different string each time.

 

I'm not the most knowledgeable on guitars, but aren't some songs tuned B standard where the strings are B-E-A-D and so forth on guitar too.

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