-= Building a Guitar from Scratch with Absolutely No Woodworking Experience =-

welcome to the  CF Rocksmith 2014 Championship

- Week 121 -

 

 

READ THIS FIRST =>> How and Why to Join the Championships
Read this second =>> Rocksmith 2014 Championship Rules

 

Last weeks winners:

Lead:
Beginner: @@diddie17
Intermediate: @@Rodman
Advanced: @@MaZtoR

MasterClass: @@fiddlesticks

Rhythm:
Beginner:  @@diddie17

Intermediate: N/A
Advanced: @@NunoJBSilva.Guitarist
Masterclass: @

Bass: 
Beginner:  @@KJParsley
Intermediate:  @@kb10
Advanced: @@lduperval
Masterclass: @@albatross213

Congrats to all the winners

 

 

Honorably Mentions for scoring 100% to @@diddie17 and @@Vodka in Beginner Rhythm and @@albatross213 in MasterClass Bass.

 

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by @@albatross213.

 

 

 

This weeks songs are:

 

It's Valentine's Day tomorrow, so you've got a bunch of love songs.

Each for everyone - as you may spend that day in various ways ;)

Lead Path:
Beginner: Metallica - Die, Die My Darling (2) chosen by @@diddie17
Intermediate: Arctic Monkeys - You Seriously Didn't Expected Me To Write The Whole Title, Didn't Ya?  (4) chosen by @@fiddlesticks
Advanced: Iron Maiden - Running Free (7) chosen by @Mortalo

Masterclass: Dream Theater - The Looking Glass (10) chosen by @@Brutus Erectus

Rhythm Path:
Beginner: N/A
Intermediate: Arctic Monkeys - This Title Is Way Too Long, So I Won't Even Try To Write It (4)
Advanced: N/A

Masterclass: Iron Maiden - Running Free (8)

 

Bass Path:
Beginner: Metallica - Die, Die My Darling (2)
Intermediate: Arctic Monkeys - You Probably Couldnt See For The Lights But You Were Looking Straight At Me (I did told ya that it's way too long, no more words) (3)

Advanced:  Iron Maiden - Running Free (4)

Masterclass: Dream Theater - The Looking Glass (8) (B standard)

(@albatross213's version)

 

Share with us your opinion on this weeks songs difficulty scores (1-10).

 

 

Exercise Challenges:

1st Exercise: Blues Comping 1 in A major shuffle
2nd Exercise: Blues Comping 2 in A major - straight 8ths

3rd Exercise: Blues Comping 3 in G major

 

Everyone can bring up new scores that will be added to the

exercises scoreboards

 

 

Da Capo Challenge this week is

 

The Beatles - She Loves You from week 71

 

 

Honorable list Diehard Member:

(draft - to be updated after CCL update)

• albatross213
• diddie17
• fiddlesticks
• franfit
• Gamut
• genobadass
• kb10
• koffein
• MaZtoR
• Metalocalypse
• missis sumner
• MonstaS4
• Mortalo
• Motive
• Nacholede
• Rodman
• Sebastien92
• Tango
• then3verend
• Vodka

Classless, Fearless FreeBird Members:

• 2groggy
• frippchen

P.s. Please, see changes in Championship Class Lists!

 

let's get started now

 

HAVE A GREAT WEEK!!!!

 

My very first time in this part of the forum, this is my first attempt to participate:

 

http://postimg.org/image/40gyxdmjz/

Bienvenido! :)

 

 

Gracias Nacho, por aca nos veremos :) ...

@ does your DT version have new changes to the bass line? I have no clue whose version I should be playing now :D

I don't know about the bass, but as far as lead goes, it feels really good playing the harmonics in this song! I dig Albatross's tweaks.

@@NoonyDeloony, there's no difference between abatross v1.9 and mine v.2 in bass, because mine is albatross'. I only modified the guitar solo, all other seems good. And thats the reason why I recommend for guitar the modified version 2. @@Gamut for you v2 would be better, you can trust me, I know what I'm doing (mostly  :))

@ - You did a good job with the solo, but the entire reason I also uploaded the source files was so that you didn't have to unpack the .psarc and deal with all the crap that the Rocksmith import misses. Here are the things I noticed that are missing/slightly messed up from your version.

 

-Time signatures are somewhat wrong.

-Some chord slides and linknexts didn't import or weren't fixed up after import.

-Arpeggios didn't import.

-FHP during the solo are messed up now. I think you just changed the notes but not the FHP.

 

Anyway, here's an improved score.

http://i.imgur.com/x3NeChk.jpg

 

Still need lots of work on the second to last section of the solo, and I think I also didn't do nearly as well as I could have on the last one.

 

 

Also, happy birthday to @@Berneer! How is the Blaze Bayley track coming?

 

Offtop  :(

 

 

Well, I made a video to demonstrate my problem with lower frets.

Please don't care about palm mutes and the other things.

Could someone tell me how to "fix" that.

I chose that song and that speed especially to show what is going on.

First try - I pressed the 5th string till the end (first photo). And the second - just a little (second photo).

As far as I'm concerned the trouble with the 5th and 6th strings and 1-2 frets.

Video: https://youtu.be/L_M4y1Zm6mw

Ugly fingers 1: http://i.imgur.com/my37mtd.jpg

Ugly fingers 2: http://i.imgur.com/NQn5STh.jpg

 

My last strings (La Bella HRS) had the same problem but only with 6th string 1st fret.

Now I'm using dunlop strings and that thing pisses me off!

Thank you in advance!

And sorry for offtop.

 

 

...

So the problem is not caused by the brand, more the gauge of your strings.

Generally you finger should always placed as close as possible to the next fret rod, not in the middle or the bottom of a fret. This way you need less pressure and the notes are sounding clear.

 

 

 

For some reason one tends to press esp. the first and the 2nd fret too hard.

Here is your fix:

1) Do place your fingers always close to the next fretrod (the finger may even touch it) as mightymighty @ pointed out.

2) Open your song, tune your guitar, press ESC

3) Now strum a few 100 of your desired notes / chords and monitor the "tuningmeter" down left.

That way you can see how far you are off from perfect and can improve on your technique - esp. pressure applied.

 

For the strings........ as @fripp said - its always you and its never the stringbrand.

Still if you want a recommendation for longlasting wellrecognised standard tuning strings -

http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Ernie%20Ball_Regular_Slinky_646_A.jpg

Earnie Ball Regular Slinky

 

For low tunings (you need a decent guitar) very good strings that do not break at retuning to standard that last like forever are

http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Guitar_10_1.JPG

Optima Gold .10 -.46

you are right @@albatross213, I was just testing out how I can fix some for me important things just with the psarc, never tried before.

Also I only changed the first solo half, didn't want to spend too much time in it. I'm surprised how easy it is to do changes without the source file. Now I played without much practice, but needs a lot of work in practicing. But it should be easy to use your source file and copy the modified solo sections into it. I'll do it this evening, then the most should be back ok.

here a first try

http://up.picr.de/24627594nr.jpg

 

 

Offtop  :(

 

 

Well, I made a video to demonstrate my problem with lower frets.

Please don't care about palm mutes and the other things.

Could someone tell me how to "fix" that.

I chose that song and that speed especially to show what is going on.

First try - I pressed the 5th string till the end (first photo). And the second - just a little (second photo).

As far as I'm concerned the trouble with the 5th and 6th strings and 1-2 frets.

Video: https://youtu.be/L_M4y1Zm6mw

Ugly fingers 1: http://i.imgur.com/my37mtd.jpg

Ugly fingers 2: http://i.imgur.com/NQn5STh.jpg

 

My last strings (La Bella HRS) had the same problem but only with 6th string 1st fret.

Now I'm using dunlop strings and that thing pisses me off!

Thank you in advance!

And sorry for offtop.

 

 

...

So the problem is not caused by the brand, more the gauge of your strings.

Generally you finger should always placed as close as possible to the next fret rod, not in the middle or the bottom of a fret. This way you need less pressure and the notes are sounding clear.

 

 

 

For some reason one tends to press esp. the first and the 2nd fret too hard.

Here is your fix:

1) Do place your fingers always close to the next fretrod (the finger may even touch it) as mightymighty @ pointed out.

2) Open your song, tune your guitar, press ESC

3) Now strum a few 100 of your desired notes / chords and monitor the "tuningmeter" down left.

That way you can see how far you are off from perfect and can improve on your technique - esp. pressure applied.

 

For the strings........ as @fripp said - its always you and its never the stringbrand.

Still if you want a recommendation for longlasting wellrecognised standard tuning strings -

http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Ernie%20Ball_Regular_Slinky_646_A.jpg

Earnie Ball Regular Slinky

 

For low tunings (you need a decent guitar) very good strings that do not break at retuning to standard that last like forever are

http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Guitar_10_1.JPG

Optima Gold .10 -.46

 

for low tunings a gauge like this is better

http://up.picr.de/24627744dc.jpg

the package of this is yellow, don't be irriated by the crappy camera colors

 

Offtop  :(

 

 

Well, I made a video to demonstrate my problem with lower frets.

Please don't care about palm mutes and the other things.

Could someone tell me how to "fix" that.

I chose that song and that speed especially to show what is going on.

First try - I pressed the 5th string till the end (first photo). And the second - just a little (second photo).

As far as I'm concerned the trouble with the 5th and 6th strings and 1-2 frets.

Video: https://youtu.be/L_M4y1Zm6mw

Ugly fingers 1: http://i.imgur.com/my37mtd.jpg

Ugly fingers 2: http://i.imgur.com/NQn5STh.jpg

 

My last strings (La Bella HRS) had the same problem but only with 6th string 1st fret.

Now I'm using dunlop strings and that thing pisses me off!

Thank you in advance!

And sorry for offtop.

 

 

In this song you have a very low tuning, is it drop C?

In your video's first run are many misses on that one note A1, also it sounds out of tune there: the pressure of your index is way to strong. On second run are no misses, also it sounds in tune, using a light pressure there, so what's the problem?

For low tunings you need to play heavy gauge strings to avoid any going out of tune effect by pressing the string too hard and/or strumming too hard. So the problem is not caused by the brand, more the gauge of your strings.

Generally you finger should always placed as close as possible to the next fret rod, not in the middle or the bottom of a fret. This way you need less pressure and the notes are sounding clear.

 

 

Yes, everything is absolutely right =)

Thank you for the answer. I'm trying to re-teach myself to place my fingers right to fret rod for several days. But that's not such an easy =) Well, will brake my fingers more and more =)

 

P.S. I wrote the message above because I've got the same issue with "die die darling" which is Eb.

@ - Sorry if I came off a bit dickish. Most of those things are things that can happen if you're not used to them and don't know what to look for. The first three problems that I mentioned are solely due to the Rocksmith import, while the last can easily happen if you're not used to editing a song where FHP are already entered (which Rocksmith import always takes, and I often put FHP in my files now to make solos and other tricky bits more easily readable and playable).

 

Anyway, if you want, if you send me your notes.eof file I can incorporate your changes to the solo into mine, which might be the easiest way to finish things off. Or I might be able to grab it from the Rocksmith import and copy/paste, since the solo has no chords.

 

 

Offtop  :(

 

 

Well, I made a video to demonstrate my problem with lower frets.

Please don't care about palm mutes and the other things.

Could someone tell me how to "fix" that.

I chose that song and that speed especially to show what is going on.

First try - I pressed the 5th string till the end (first photo). And the second - just a little (second photo).

As far as I'm concerned the trouble with the 5th and 6th strings and 1-2 frets.

Video: https://youtu.be/L_M4y1Zm6mw

Ugly fingers 1: http://i.imgur.com/my37mtd.jpg

Ugly fingers 2: http://i.imgur.com/NQn5STh.jpg

 

My last strings (La Bella HRS) had the same problem but only with 6th string 1st fret.

Now I'm using dunlop strings and that thing pisses me off!

Thank you in advance!

And sorry for offtop.

 

 

...

So the problem is not caused by the brand, more the gauge of your strings.

Generally you finger should always placed as close as possible to the next fret rod, not in the middle or the bottom of a fret. This way you need less pressure and the notes are sounding clear.

 

 

 

For some reason one tends to press esp. the first and the 2nd fret too hard.

Here is your fix:

1) Do place your fingers always close to the next fretrod (the finger may even touch it) as mightymighty @ pointed out.

2) Open your song, tune your guitar, press ESC

3) Now strum a few 100 of your desired notes / chords and monitor the "tuningmeter" down left.

That way you can see how far you are off from perfect and can improve on your technique - esp. pressure applied.

 

For the strings........ as @fripp said - its always you and its never the stringbrand.

Still if you want a recommendation for longlasting wellrecognised standard tuning strings -

http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Ernie%20Ball_Regular_Slinky_646_A.jpg

Earnie Ball Regular Slinky

 

For low tunings (you need a decent guitar) very good strings that do not break at retuning to standard that last like forever are

http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Guitar_10_1.JPG

Optima Gold .10 -.46

 

 

Thank you very much for an answer.

Well, as I wrote to @ I'm trying to re-teach my fingers. Punch me every day!..

 

I'm using exact 10-46 =)

Gold strings? Oh my... I have to google it. They are cost 3x of my current strings)))

 

Anyway thank you very much for a teaching minute!  ;)

@ - Sorry if I came off a bit dickish. Most of those things are things that can happen if you're not used to them and don't know what to look for. The first three problems that I mentioned are solely due to the Rocksmith import, while the last can easily happen if you're not used to editing a song where FHP are already entered (which Rocksmith import always takes, and I often put FHP in my files now to make solos and other tricky bits more easily readable and playable).

 

Anyway, if you want, if you send me your notes.eof file I can incorporate your changes to the solo into mine, which might be the easiest way to finish things off. Or I might be able to grab it from the Rocksmith import and copy/paste, since the solo has no chords.

No problem, I fully understand you. That would be great if you could fix those, anyway, here's the eof notes file.

For me it seemed the easiest way to unpack, fix and repack it. If you use only the notes file you need to create the psarc new, also you need tones and image and wem file I thought, no? I'm not very familar by doing it that way. Also I never cared much about fhp, only filling the correct fingers into chords when saving eof  :ph34r:

 

For low tunings (you need a decent guitar) very good strings that do not break at retuning to standard that last like forever are

http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Guitar_10_1.JPG

Optima Gold .10 -.46

 

for low tunings a gauge like this is better

http://up.picr.de/24627744dc.jpg

the package of this is yellow, don't be irriated by the crappy camera colors

Of course they are but if you play with only one guitar and dont feel confortable using fat strings all of the time the optima .11 or .10 would serve well.

(I even have them on my low tuning jk-1 esp-ltd in .11 - .50 - no problem down to b-std. and i just havent tried any a-tunings ... i should play soad soon ... )

@@Vodka Not every guitar will respond well to thick strings. Machine head in my Jackson broke after triying to tune .52 to E (it broke around B standard). Since then I'm using Hybrid Slinkies by Ernie.

@@Vodka Not every guitar will respond well to thick strings. Machine head in my Jackson broke after triying to tune .52 to E (it broke around B standard). Since then I'm using Hybrid Slinkies by Ernie.

One my friend tried drop strings from La Bella. He said he was feared the guitar will collapse :D

I have played the main riff for ~50 times in a row and the 2 times only was 0 error %)

http://i.imgur.com/IH19kUc.jpg

joinin the 98club

 

http://i64.tinypic.com/122m9md.jpg

Alright, I added @'s updates to mine and hosted it in the same folder as before. Most changes are to the solo, but I also found some of the missing palm mutes, fixed some FHPs, and put "ignore" status on the 3rd fret harmonics since I had a 0% success rate with detection on those. Not sure if it was in the previous version or not, but somehow I was missing a tone change to the clean after the solo before going back to the distortion for the outro chorus, so that's back in there.

 

Also tried adding a DD version, but it seemed to have some weird bugs with some of the slides.

 

Lastly, a scoring update:

http://i.imgur.com/OsoILNG.jpg

The hard parts of the solo still pwn me, but I'm getting better.

Getting chummy with You Probably!

 

http://i.imgur.com/zf4Mi6n.jpg

 

I finished this play and realised: My hair's all prettied up, I'm wearing nice clothes, my closet door is closed... I definitely should have recorded that. :sob: I guess I can record my 100% MM play?! 

 

For some reason, all the learning I put into the DT chorus yesterday evening went in one ear and out the other, because I'm sucking at it all over again today. I'm up to 88%, but I'm not bothering with a screenie until I hit at least 90, because I know I should be.  :ph34r:

The new and improved version of The Looking Glass really did it for me! Thanks @frippchen   http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r632/Amund_Filseth/2016-02-18_00002_zpsmzbeuwdz.jpghttp://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r632/Amund_Filseth/2016-02-18_00001_zpsixd3n1vt.jpg

@@Brutus Erectus great scores & thanks man :)  You redeemed me from practising Looking Glass, I'm really tired of it at the moment.

Now I can try to get you in Running Free

Again a short amount of practice time tonight but for 2 hours over 2 days I'm pretty surprised I managed to get through SA. I got £10 from the other half on my steam account for Valentine's day so, spent it on some DLC for RS :) gonna go rest up and play them for a bit :D

 

If I can scrape a million in SA and get my accuracy to about 98% I'll be happy.

 

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=627308103

gotcha Brutus :D

http://up.picr.de/24632681ey.jpg

fun song, but the final bendings are really askew

http://up.picr.de/24632802kr.jpg

and again I played the harmony part in one position

Well guys, here is my latest efford on The Looking Glass. Dont know if i can reach any further, damm B string, sometimes game does not recognize the lower notes :)...

 

http://postimg.org/image/w4246nyul/