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The song I'm working on right now is really long -- almost 11 minutes. And I made a mistake while setting the beatmap.

 

The song starts on an offbeat, but I chose the wrong one. It should start at the 2:2 (second measure 2nd) beat, but I started it at the 2:4 (second measure 4th) beat.

 

Is there a way to drag the entire beatmap forward two beats?

 

I've tried adding/padding beats, but this seems to rewrite the waveform, not move the beat markers.

 

I have a feeling I'm going to have to start again from scratch...



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Adjusting the first beat doesn't work? If there isn't any anchor, all the beat should move accordingly to the first one.


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Adjusting the first beat doesn't work? If there isn't any anchor, all the beat should move accordingly to the first one.

 

No, I already made the beatmap for the entire song -- it was only when I was finished that I realized the mistake. So all of the anchors are in place.



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what if you change the signature time of the measures before the song starts?



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what if you change the signature time of the measures before the song starts?

 

Hmm... that might just work.

 

Because later in the song, the band makes its own shift (which is probably why I made my mistake), which means my mistake gets corrected.

 

I'll give it a try. Though it's not a big deal redoing the beatmap, that's the easy part -- at least for this song.



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If you don't need to move the beat positions only drop the first two from the beginning, you can use the "Beat>Push offset up" function twice.

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The song I'm working on right now is really long -- almost 11 minutes. And I made a mistake while setting the beatmap.

 

The song starts on an offbeat, but I chose the wrong one. It should start at the 2:2 (second measure 2nd) beat, but I started it at the 2:4 (second measure 4th) beat.

 

Is there a way to drag the entire beatmap forward two beats?

 

I've tried adding/padding beats, but this seems to rewrite the waveform, not move the beat markers.

 

I have a feeling I'm going to have to start again from scratch...

 

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by setting the beatmap.  Do you mean you're dragging the beat markers in EOF to line up with where the beat is in the song?

 

If so, you can just count back 4 beats (or 2 beats if you're half a measure off) and start the measures there and it should adjust all the other measures accordingly without having to move anything.



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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by setting the beatmap.  Do you mean you're dragging the beat markers in EOF to line up with where the beat is in the song?

 

If so, you can just count back 4 beats (or 2 beats if you're half a measure off) and start the measures there and it should adjust all the other measures accordingly without having to move anything.

 

 

Yes, I mean I've moved the markers to line up with the beat (fortunately this song has a snare drum through most of it!). So they're all anchored already.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "count back" -- do you mean reset the time signature from a different beat? Hmm... I'm going to go try that...

 

Edit: Yes, this works. Sort of... I think the band makes a couple of time signature changes (or mistakes?) in the song... probably a bit over my head at this point. Think i'll stick to easier songs for now.



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You can also set the changes to different time signatures within the song if you can work out where they are.  I had one where there was a half measure added onto the end of every chorus. 



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You can also set the changes to different time signatures within the song if you can work out where they are.  I had one where there was a half measure added onto the end of every chorus. 

 

It's hard to say if it's a time change or a mistake - it happens after a pause in the song. Seems like they just didn't count all the way to four before coming back in.



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You could always just author that as a time signature change, ie:
4/4            2/4   4/4| : : : | : : : | : : | : : : | ...


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Yep, that's what I'm planning to do. I need to go through the song a few more times though, see if there's other points where this happens -- if there's a pattern to it, it'll be easier.