The name in the toolkit define the part in RS so if you name it to bass, it will be a bass part, if you name it as a guitar it will be a guitar part.

 

As i understand what you want to try, is to use a guitar part which as 6 strings to play a bass part (simply using the tunning of a bass on 5 strings and for the sixth define something you can play for the tunning part). I don't see why it wouldn't work if Rocksmith accept to set a tunning this low for a guitar but it seems to accept almost everything so...

 

But if you create the bass part as bonus arrangement only people aware of this will use it.

Yes, but we can increase awareness of BONUS Arrangements on this FORUM

and CAPS + BOLD HELPS on each RELEVANT C-DLC PAGE...

Yes I definitely need to get a 5-string too now, that was a bit crazy but damn good idea dave :)

the line between crazy and genius is said to be very thin  :-P

This is a little over my head but I have charted a 5 string bass piece in EoF. Can I use this trick to be able to play it on an emulated bass and preferably with the same file on a 4 and 5 string bass as well? What steps would I exactly have to take? :)

This is a little over my head but I have charted a 5 string bass piece in EoF. Can I use this trick to be able to play it on an emulated bass and preferably with the same file on a 4 and 5 string bass as well? What steps would I exactly have to take? :)

 

 

For just being able to play it on emulated bass you don't have to do anything. For being able to play it with an actual bass guitar you need to implement the trick, assuming the song in in a tuning that has a B string or lower.

 

Have you charted it as a bass part or a guitar part? I don't think anyone has tried the guitar trick yet. But for a bass part the quote from LittleLui in the first post should have you covered. Of course you can ask more if you don't understand.

 

With a bass part you only get 4 strings in game but in most cases that should be enough right? :) You can use the lowest 4 strings on a 5 string.

Oh, and I haven't heard anybody try but I guess a bass part done with this trick should also work with emulated bass completely normally. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I will try the guitar trick since i have a 5 strings bass songs (with the right tab) and a lot of room in the bonus arrangement to make it but i won't be able to try it myself.

I will try the guitar trick since i have a 5 strings bass songs (with the right tab) and a lot of room in the bonus arrangement to make it but i won't be able to try it myself.

Yeah, I guess for the "bass as a guitar" trick you need an actual 5-string, that or you need to tune your guitar to bass register :) I don't think you can use the bass emulation when playing guitar parts?

Nop, it's automated by rocksmith, and goind as low as a 5 strings bass on my guitar, well i like spaghettis but not on my guitar...

Nop, it's automated by rocksmith, and goind as low as a 5 strings bass on my guitar, well i like spaghettis but not on my guitar...

By the way, have you tried playing the bass parts you've done with this trick on emulated bass? Does it work like normal?

Yes, it was as normal as it could be.

I think it would be good if some filmatic person could do a video tutorial on this perhaps. I can probably try and do it maybe in a couple of weeks when I get my 5-string but if someone feels like doing it before feel free to do it.

So here it is : http://www.mediafire.com/.../In-Flames_Land-Of-Confusion_v1_p.psarc

 

It's the lead bonus arrangement for the bass part with 5 strings (if anyone with a bass even a 4 strings can confirm me that it works fine, it's kinda impossible for me to try it out with a guitar...)

well picking up a five string this weekend so will be trying to trick the guitar part for a bassline real soon.

 

Any suggestions for an easy 5 string track???

well picking up a five string this weekend so will be trying to trick the guitar part for a bassline real soon.

 

Any suggestions for an easy 5 string track???

I haven't done any research, but I feel like there is a strong negative correlation between a song actually utilizing all of the 5 strings and the song being easy :P

 

I should be getting my 5 string sometime next week.

On my song since the Bonus arrangement is in a lower tunning, it ruins the sorting of the lead part (RS use the lower tunning between the normal arrangement and the bonus one).

 

I really would love a tester even with a 4 strings bass so that i know it's the good tunning that is set and it's actually playable as it is.

On my song since the Bonus arrangement is in a lower tunning, it ruins the sorting of the lead part (RS use the lower tunning between the normal arrangement and the bonus one).

 

I really would love a tester even with a 4 strings bass so that i know it's the good tunning that is set and it's actually playable as it is.

How do the bonus arrangements even work? It asks you to choose when you're picking the song? Or do they show up as 2 separate songs so to speak? I have 0 experience with them.

When you choose a song the last line in the menu just before launching the song allow you to change the arrangement. The name is pretty self explanatory.

Ok, gave the bonus lead arrangement a try. Something's not right, the low C string is still 500 cents above my high G string, so it's a C3 note apparently. What did you set the tuning as?

On my song since the Bonus arrangement is in a lower tunning, it ruins the sorting of the lead part (RS use the lower tunning between the normal arrangement and the bonus one).

 

I really would love a tester even with a 4 strings bass so that i know it's the good tunning that is set and it's actually playable as it is.

 

You wanted someone to test the bass part in Land Of Confusion?

 

I didn't see a bonus arrangement so I played the regular bass part.  It worked out well.  I got a 99.3% accuracy so the tuning worked out.

 

On my song since the Bonus arrangement is in a lower tunning, it ruins the sorting of the lead part (RS use the lower tunning between the normal arrangement and the bonus one).

 

I really would love a tester even with a 4 strings bass so that i know it's the good tunning that is set and it's actually playable as it is.

 

You wanted someone to test the bass part in Land Of Confusion?

 

I didn't see a bonus arrangement so I played the regular bass part.  It worked out well.  I got a 99.3% accuracy so the tuning worked

It's the lead guitar bonus arrangement, we're trying that with a bass.

Followed your comments from our private conversation (posting them for other people to use):

 

1: Have the song charted as a bass part as it should be played in the desired tuning. B-E-A-D in this case.

 

2: Change the tuning to +7,+7,+7,+7 in EoF (normally B-E-A-D would be -5,-5,-5,-5 compared to E-A-D-G, but for the trick we need to transpose them an octave higher, -5+12 = 7)

 

3) In the Rocksmith toolkit change the tuning of the bass arrangement to +7,+7,+7,+7 too. For me it does this automatically sometimes when you import the arrangement, but if it doesn't click on the "..." button next to the tuning and edit it.

 

4) Then change the tuning pitch of the bass arrangement from 440 Hz to 220 Hz, this is the most important part, otherwise you would tell people to actually tune their basses an octave higher, and that could result in some snapped strings. With this we have countered the +12 transpose earlier in the tuning so we are at B-E-A-D.

 

Result: http://customsforge.com/page/customsforge_rs_2014_cdlc.html/_/pc-enabled-rs-2014-cdlc/along-for-the-ride-r3363 :). Seems to work fine on my emulated bass. Rocksmith throws some in-game errors (doesn't show the name of the tuning, warns me about playing bass while I have it on emulated bass) though. They're probably not preventable?

The bass tunning should be A#0 C1 F1 A#1 D#2 and for the 6th strings during tunning you should play the 5th fret of the 5th strings in theory with a 5 strings bass. With a 4 strings, during the tunning phase you should play the 5th then the 10th fret on the highest string once you've tuned down to a C drop Bb. I'm not sure it's crystal clear...

 

I will take a look at what is actually set in the toolkit and EOF when i will be at home and have acces to the file but the strings name should be displayed correctly in RS.

 

 

On my song since the Bonus arrangement is in a lower tunning, it ruins the sorting of the lead part (RS use the lower tunning between the normal arrangement and the bonus one).

 

I really would love a tester even with a 4 strings bass so that i know it's the good tunning that is set and it's actually playable as it is.

 

You wanted someone to test the bass part in Land Of Confusion?

 

I didn't see a bonus arrangement so I played the regular bass part.  It worked out well.  I got a 99.3% accuracy so the tuning worked

It's the lead guitar bonus arrangement, we're trying that with a bass.

 

 

Ok, I played the Bonus Guitar Arrangement using a real 5-string bass guitar.

 

I played the entire song in riff repeater and missed 0 notes, so the detection works well.

 

Tuning was easy enough.  I  bet there will be at least one person who doesn't read the release notes and try to tune his bass up too high and snap strings.  It'll be a good lesson though.

Result: http://customsforge.com/page/customsforge_rs_2014_cdlc.html/_/pc-enabled-rs-2014-cdlc/along-for-the-ride-r3363 :). Seems to work fine on my emulated bass. Rocksmith throws some in-game errors (doesn't show the name of the tuning, warns me about playing bass while I have it on emulated bass) though. They're probably not preventable?

 

I played this on a real bass too.  Works good!

 

Ok, I played the Bonus Guitar Arrangement using a real 5-string bass guitar.

 

I played the entire song in riff repeater and missed 0 notes, so the detection works well.

 

Tuning was easy enough.  I  bet there will be at least one person who doesn't read the release notes and try to tune his bass up too high and snap strings.  It'll be a good lesson though.

 

Huh, I must have done/looked something wrong then. Pretty cool that it's working.

 

You just played the open strings in tuning and it worked? For me it seemed the tuning was too high.