i have been playing for 5 months and i can usually get 70% or more on songs first try. The harder more seasoned guitar songs i tend to get 50% or less. I feel this is good progress. I started full speed on slightly stoopid closer to the sun and have got up to 80%, it goes to show how important RR is. My nephew has been playing bass for a little less time and i have noticed that alot of his parts seem to be easier to get down after a couple of play throughs.