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How bad is having a more then 30 year old band which didn't had major carrier?

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Personaly i don't know. I don't have a band yet, but i'm still hoping to be in one.

 

I kinda feel bad for my guitar teacher having his more then 30 year old band and don't have major succes and carrier like Metallica had (still has,lol).

 

What do you think? Do you know someone particular or just heard of that?

 

btw: here is one of their gig from 1992, he is the solo guitrarist ( not the one who has the flying v :D )

Their band is called "Algernon"

 


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Sounds awesome that they managed to stay together for 30 years.   Most people don't play music to get rich.



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My only guitar teacher used to play in a disco music band for something more than 10 years. They are quite known in my area, but not pros. My teacher gave up eventually, it was fun but they played live really a lot, so it became very tiring to have a job in the morning/afternoon and a live in the evening. Also they wear afro wigs and disco clothes during lives, and in summer this becomes a real pain. (example: https://www.facebook...?type=3)

The band (with all formation changes) is now 20+ years old. 



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I really don´t know...

 

I know a few musicians (mostly from buying their guitars ;) ) and the ones making a living out of it they play in cover bands performing questionable music on public events.

The ones making their own music are all far far far from being able to make a living out of it, do it as passion or hobby if you like besides their day jobs.

 

If you ask me the latter is a real cool desirable thing.



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I really don´t know...

 

I know a few musicians (mostly from buying their guitars ;) ) and the ones making a living out of it they play in cover bands performing questionable music on public events.

The ones making their own music are all far far far from being able to make a living out of it, do it as passion or hobby if you like besides their day jobs.

 

If you ask me the latter is a real cool desirable thing.

I want to do both tbh :D i really feel like i could do all these, like for example  write songs, go on gigs and tours etc. and i feel motivated to do it,(even in my darkest days ,lol) but how would i know these (some might say) i'm only 18 years old :D 


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4.)I don't have any song to work on it

 

 

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Not everyone can be the be in the top 10 of the best artist of all time :)

 

And it's not always desired by the band itself. Being able to have fun with your passion even if it stays in a relatively small state is far from a bad thing at all.

 

There's tons of band out there that only play locally and don't have millions of fans all around the world and i don't wish for any of them to stop doing what they love at all.

 

And it's hard to keep a band together for 30 years, a lot of people don't keep their wifes/husband that long...


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Not everyone can be the be in the top 10 of the best artist of all time :)

 

And it's not always desired by the band itself. Being able to have fun with your passion even if it stays in a relatively small state is far from a bad thing at all.

 

There's tons of band out there that only play locally and don't have millions of fans all around the world and i don't wish for any of them to stop doing what they love at all.

 

And it's hard to keep a band together for 30 years, a lot of people don't keep their wifes/husband that long...

That's true, and of coure i'm not saying that they should be in the top 10 best bands of all time either :D  most of my fav. bands like Godsmack or Billy Talent are not in that well known area like AC/DC or Metallica but still. I hope that one day i'm going to reach their level :)


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I think it has much to do with promotion and advertisement, it requires more business talents, then artistic.

You need a good manager, a famous label, people who really want to turn you into cash.

 

Most famous bands aren't really great musicians or players anyway.

Most of time they play for a big ignorant audience, who would not even notice a tone change.

 

And this audience is expecting more of the same, which ultimately kills creativity.

Jumps to my mind Linking Park, Bon Jovi, Coldplay.

 

Rush, what musically poor stuff they made since they entered the hall of fame.

 

And then Managers tend to impose an "Image"

Something that captures the attention :

 

Jumps to my mind - Ghost - really pushed forward to win prizes they don't deserve, considering the level of art.

Prizes specially made for hidden promotion.

Like an Armani catwalk.

 

Finally it's about keeping your soul, not selling it, making the music you feel you need to play,

and not play what most people want you to play.

 

So not becoming famous is really something to be proud of,

being recognized by musicians is much more rewarding.

 

Jumps to my mind : Eric Johnson



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I think it has much to do with promotion and advertisement, it requires more business talents, then artistic.

You need a good manager, a famous label, people who really want to turn you into cash.

 

Most famous bands aren't really great musicians or players anyway.

Most of time they play for a big ignorant audience, who would not even notice a tone change.

 

And this audience is expecting more of the same, which ultimately kills creativity.

Jumps to my mind Linking Park, Bon Jovi, Coldplay.

 

Rush, what musically poor stuff they made since they entered the hall of fame.

 

And then Managers tend to impose an "Image"

Something that captures the attention :

 

Jumps to my mind - Ghost - really pushed forward to win prizes they don't deserve, considering the level of art.

Prizes specially made for hidden promotion.

Like an Armani catwalk.

 

Finally it's about keeping your soul, not selling it, making the music you feel you need to play,

and not play what most people want you to play.

 

So not becoming famous is really something to be proud of,

being recognized by musicians is much more rewarding.

Yeah, all true, altough i'm still loyal to the "make music with your own touch" thing. Even tought i'm still trying to find my voice on guitar or even in music. The best thing is when someone listens to a lot of genre (like me, lol) and then you eventually inpired by those artists, so you use everything to make your music. Still, lot of people don't realise that rock has a lot of genre and each sound way different than the other one.


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I think it's pretty good. The bandmates in that situation are probably very good friends with each other. A good friend over that many years is rare and rarer still is more than one!
 
I have played in the same band for 15 years now(all originals). We have all gone through many relationships, life hurdles and jobs. The weekly 6 hour rehearsal room jam is like a sanctuary for the three of us.
 
We have released two albums and are about to release our third. The first was self recorded, the second and third in a friends home studio. The third one has 36 songs on it so we will split it up over one album (best of the best) and the rest as EP's.
 
We play about once a month and we love it. I really hope we can play for 15 more years but our drummer is in a more famous band and doesnt have the time anymore...which may change after we get even more famous haha(unlikely).


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I think it's pretty good. The bandmates in that situation are probably very good friends with each other. A good friend over that many years is rare and rarer still is more than one!
 
I have played in the same band for 15 years now(all originals). We have all gone through many relationships, life hurdles and jobs. The weekly 6 hour rehearsal room jam is like a sanctuary for the three of us.
 
We have released two albums and are about to release our third. The first was self recorded, the second and third in a friends home studio. The third one has 36 songs on it so we will split it up over one album (best of the best) and the rest as EP's.
 
We play about once a month and we love it. I really hope we can play for 15 more years but our drummer is in a more famous band and doesnt have the time anymore...which may change after we get even more famous haha(unlikely).

 

That's amazing dude! Remember, enjoy every momment of it while it last. Sadly The singer of my teacher's band past away recently :(


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Death comes for us all sadly. I'm sorry for his loss.

 

I will enjoy it thanks!!! I've also recently upgraded to a full digital setup (sold all my pedals, amps, recording gear and went iRig/Amplitude/Cubase all the way)and started recording solo tracks again. It's great fun. Planning one track a week and im a bit behind atm :-)



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I don't think it's specially bad. Clutch is an amazing band and isn't really known. Melvins are basically the fathers of most (good) metal/grunge/something bands and they aren't really known. They just do their thing and they are fine with it.



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It's not really bad, it's awfully common to be overshadowed by oversaturated bands and lose exposure. One example is Limbonic Art, just 2 guys and they made some amazing music during the rise of the norwegian metal bands, but gained very little fame.